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Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 15:37
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Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 15:37
Jul 27, 2003, 15:37
 
...CNN? Foxnews?

Are we going to get linked to every gamer who dies now?

Maybe we can start getting pictures of their dead bodies linked too!

I come here to read about gaming, something fun and something thats positive in my life. Just seeing a link like this enrages me because it...well jeez it is about death. REAL death. There is enough of that on the other sites I read, why does it have to be here?

Besides, the majority of the time it is just some haox setup by some asshole who doesnt get enough attention from mommy and daddy...

Jeez, anyways, i say all this as if my opinion really matter to anyone.

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 16:35
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 16:35
Jul 27, 2003, 16:35
 
I don't mind hearing about what happens to people in the gaming community, but for some reason that I can't quite explain, this one feels like a hoax. Her friend "inherits" her computer, and just happens to know all her passwords to everything, including obscure forums she may have frequented. And the narrative was almost silly, with all the "omg I have to break now so I can cry... ok I'm back".

I'll sure feel like an ass if it's real, but it smacks of internet fiction.

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 17:40
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 17:40
Jul 27, 2003, 17:40
 
^^^

i liked the guy who posted about "declaring shenanigans" haha.

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 17:48
nin
 
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 17:48
Jul 27, 2003, 17:48
 nin
 
I'll sure feel like an ass if it's real, but it smacks of internet fiction.

After reading it the post, I kinda felt the same way. And this person has also taken over the deceased's mail accounts, too? Uh-huh...sounds fishy...



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Jul 27, 2003, 18:11
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Jul 27, 2003, 18:11
 

...wrong article...

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 19:37
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 19:37
Jul 27, 2003, 19:37
 
nin: What about saved password features? Outlook has one, this forum has one, almost all forums have one. As for the e-mail, since the payment is now being done by a different person, why couldn't the new legal owner ask for a password reset? Her position in the community too makes it very unlikely that this is a hoax.

I'm still not saying whether I believe it's true or not, but merely presenting the facts.

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 19:43
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 19:43
Jul 27, 2003, 19:43
 
http://www.legendmud.org/raph/

Heard this one before but Raph Koster had some interesting thoughts about a similar event ( real or otherwise) It's worth a read if you haven't seen it before.

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No subject
Jul 27, 2003, 20:11
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No subject Jul 27, 2003, 20:11
Jul 27, 2003, 20:11
 
Was some pretty sad stuff

Its amazing some of you are so jaded (probably rightly so ) about the BS on the net, that even when something very proably real happens you have to make up stuff so you dont have to believe. If you didnt have family wouldnt your friends get your puter? And the best clue is how does she know the passwords or there has been a hoax before?
Denial is a powerful thing?


Anyway thanks Blue, for keeping us informed about all aspects of our gaming world, thou the news is sad, you Rulz

I had a online friend, in the Unreal community whom died about 2 years now I think she was driving back from a ski trip with her boyfriend when her jeep skided of the road and killed her

Her boyfriend survied, she was also young (18) and very beautiful, her online name was Tammy-Why-Not

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 20:43
nin
 
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 20:43
Jul 27, 2003, 20:43
 nin
 
What about saved password features? Outlook has one, this forum has one, almost all forums have one. As for the e-mail, since the payment is now being done by a different person, why couldn't the new legal owner ask for a password reset? Her position in the community too makes it very unlikely that this is a hoax.

Well, unless she was running ME or earlier, you'd have to have the admin password on the box to access all the accounts. And sure, they could ask an ISP to change an account, but they're (the poster) saying the ISP willingly changed over all the billing information and account info to a different person?

The line that stood out to me was:
Her email account is still active as I've assumed payment over her internet account so if you wanted to send any words or anything you can and I'll .. I don't know .. read them and cry some more!

It was like "I'd like more pity mail, please".



I'm still not saying whether I believe it's true or not, but merely presenting the facts.

Nor am I...it could very well be true. But the way it was worded seemed a bit odd...



Its amazing some of you are so jaded (probably rightly so ) about the BS on the net, that even when something very proably real happens you have to make up stuff so you dont have to believe.

There's been more than a few people that have faked their own deaths courtesy of the internet, only to pop back up later. Some people like to get attention from others. I'm not saying this is the case here, I'm just saying it smells funny. I'm going to research this some more...


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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 21:14
nin
 
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 21:14
Jul 27, 2003, 21:14
 nin
 
Well, I searched "thestar.com" a Toronto newspaper with a searchable archive. No meantion of a shooting with the search word of "Parkdale" or "Jameson" in the last 6 months, and no hits for "Masukei", "Yurii-Mao", or "Lita", looking for an obit.

Try your own search...
http://www.thestar.com/static/archives/search.html

And I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade here...but go back and read that whole thread. Notice how this person keeps posting over and over? It's like they want the attention and sympathy from others.


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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 21:49
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 21:49
Jul 27, 2003, 21:49
 
I live in Toronto (Mississauga, but close enough). I'm pretty sure a case like this, an innocent good looking girl getting shot during what appears to be gang violence then dying after a coma, would of recieved more publicity.

Not totally dismissing the possibilty but I've heard nothing even remotely like that (and TO papers tend to talk about something big like murder for weeks).

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 22:50
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 22:50
Jul 27, 2003, 22:50
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Lookup:

The Star (no mention)
The Toronto Sun (no mention)
Globe and Mail (no mention)
National Post (no mention)

The wife grew up in Parkdale, Toronto

"Honey could you phone ya family nada nada nada"

FAKE

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 22:58
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 22:58
Jul 27, 2003, 22:58
 
I fell bad for not believe this story. But reading these other posts I realize this whole thing smells of a hoax

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 27, 2003, 23:11
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 27, 2003, 23:11
Jul 27, 2003, 23:11
 
I don't mind hearing about what happens to people in the gaming community, but for some reason that I can't quite explain, this one feels like a hoax. Her friend "inherits" her computer, and just happens to know all her passwords to everything, including obscure forums she may have frequented. And the narrative was almost silly, with all the "omg I have to break now so I can cry... ok I'm back".

Yep, that was the clincher for me to. It's BS. Which leads me to question what kind of sick person solicits sympathy mail from total strangers?

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Question
Jul 27, 2003, 23:39
Enahs
 
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Question Jul 27, 2003, 23:39
Jul 27, 2003, 23:39
 Enahs
 
Ok, Silly question. Who is this girl suppose to be "in the community". I mean, was she just a game player? Or one of those top notch gamers, was she involved in making a game? Was she just same average gamer? Should I know her? Does anyone that claims to be a family/friend of a gamer say they die, blah blah blah and get mentioned on gaming sites?

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No subject
Jul 27, 2003, 23:46
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No subject Jul 27, 2003, 23:46
Jul 27, 2003, 23:46
 
Very compelling information, I can only hope you guys are right she just needed attention.

Thou I am playing it safe tonight, I have already had a German guy say I was insualting he was a Naz.., that was a stinger
I would never do that, he was caught off guard, got mad and spuuuueddd that on to the thread, quite shocking, fortunatly there were several other Germans on the thread who said he was full of it and way out of line.

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Re: Ok, what is this...
Jul 28, 2003, 01:41
indiv
 
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Re: Ok, what is this... Jul 28, 2003, 01:41
Jul 28, 2003, 01:41
 indiv
 
And sure, they could ask an ISP to change an account, but they're (the poster) saying the ISP willingly changed over all the billing information and account info to a different person?

For the record, I used to work at an ISP years ago and we'd do stuff like this all the time. In the field of computers, working at an ISP is analogous to working at McDonalds, from my experience. The most entertaining situation related to changing billing info over was a feuding husband and wife who kept calling back and taking control over the account--we didn't particularly care either way. If a simple PPP modem account was worth hacking, it'd be easy to do a little "social engineering" with the ISP to obtain the passwords.

Anyway, just thought I'd share.

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Um yea...
Jul 28, 2003, 02:06
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Um yea... Jul 28, 2003, 02:06
Jul 28, 2003, 02:06
 
I didn't think this was fake after I read the post. However after reading your comments and such, I'm thinking differently.

Wouldn't the cookies expire and the passwords be lost to the forum and shit? What would compell a "friend" to post on her gamer forum that she died? You think she would be trying to get over the lost of her not "advertise" her death to every online friend she had.

If I kicked the bucket tomorrow, and somehow my friends got my computer. They would not go post on devianART, where I usually hangout, that I died and you should all send me email.

For one, thye wouldn't spend the time to get the password, then tell all ym online friends that I'm dead.

I wasn't moved when I read this story. For one, this shit happens everyday, and this is important to bluesnews because she played a video game!? Wow....that's a pretty general thign to have in common. Maybe if this person was a professional gamer, or when around killing people with an axe because she played Rune so much...That would make it news worthy..

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No subject
Jul 28, 2003, 04:12
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No subject Jul 28, 2003, 04:12
Jul 28, 2003, 04:12
 
seems as fake as hell to me..

i also hate when people try to be holy by saying stuff they heard in movies like

"MAY HER BODY REST IN PEICE"

it's so stupid..

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Lita/Bosatsu Runegame topic
Jul 28, 2003, 04:46
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Lita/Bosatsu Runegame topic Jul 28, 2003, 04:46
Jul 28, 2003, 04:46
 
As a long time member of the Runegame.com community, I must say this. Bosatsu was not given to these kinds of practical jokes. She was a very real, very huge supporter of the Human Head Studios game, RUNE, since before it came out. Bosatsu was also one of the community's best "skinners". She gladly helped so many others with their "skins" and sigs when asked. Her rolicking humor was greatly appreciated in the forums and was known to be a "tough" cookie with a good heart. Bosatsu was a hard fighter in the MP servers and great to "chat" with (even while lopping your head off) She did have her share of problems and had some close calls with cars accidents. But "acting out", as some of you are thinking, was not her "style".

Cookies get cleared when you log off but if you stay "logged in", no password is needed to be typed in again. It is "saved". This not a case of "spoofing" an account either. The person may have inherited Bo's computer as she said. Not that unusual, as pointed out. In this case, the poster used Bosatsu's Runegame account to post the info at first. The poster says she is a close of friend of Bo's. This person has since registered under her own name and posting with it.

Since when has given free reign to emotions while posting, a "no no"? Flames are common enough in forums, but any heartfelt outpourings? "Fake", you cry. I am older than most of you probably....I have seen enough "passing" away of friends and family to have my share of grieving. To have heard lame comments and even given a few unintentionably. There are no classes in this sort of thing. How else is a friend supposed to feel while conveying bad news like this on a phone or writing? Ok, guys are supposed to be of "sterner" stuff and no tears.
Bull.

There are gaming communities, like Runegame's, that are small enough and close knit enough, where members know each other over the years. More like a big family, than a huge faceless crowd. When someone does die, then we do feel the loss. Death comes when it does...a fact of life. Senseless or not. A good name left behind and to be remembered by family and friends. To know you lived a good a life as possible, even if in small ways. To leave a woven life tapestry behind, full of bright colors and few drab threads. Sorry, I dont believe in the Greek version of the Fates spinning single web. In Greek mythology, only the great Kings and heroes got Golden threads...the rest might get Silver ones and the vast majority of people, course grey ones. The Old Norse/Vikings has a broader concept. The Norns wove your life's tapestry as you lived it. By the choices you make and their effects. The cynics, in this bunch, should think about their own reality.

We are all hoping this is NOT a hoax, as horrible a thought that sounds. I would rather hope that Bosatsu would come popping back after some months long absence, as she would. Find the Runegame topic and make some kind "Mark Twainlike" remark about "rumors of their own death".

Laurie "the DeepMinded"
Viking Myth//forums moderator
Runegame.com

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