DirectX 9.0b

Though the update is not yet on the DirectX website, a new DirectX 9.0b End-User Runtime is now available for each version of Windows via the Windows Update dealie (thanks Ant) and this webpage (thanks TopTechTips). Word is: "DirectX 9.0b includes security and performance updates. Download now to get the latest DirectX updates. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed."
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No subject
Jul 23, 2003, 22:10
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No subject Jul 23, 2003, 22:10
Jul 23, 2003, 22:10
 
Hmm, that's not something I'd consider to be an 'item'. Oh well.. no problem.

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Re: No subject
Jul 23, 2003, 22:26
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Re: No subject Jul 23, 2003, 22:26
Jul 23, 2003, 22:26
 
It is an "item" if you consider the DirectX update as one of many updates availble through Windows Update.

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can't remove patch
Jul 23, 2003, 23:49
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can't remove patch Jul 23, 2003, 23:49
Jul 23, 2003, 23:49
 
while i'm sure its no big deal...anyone else sick of these patches that supposedly can't be removed?

I'm just patiently waiting for the day MS screws up big time and releases a patch that makes every computer not boot..oops, sorry, can't remove it...gotta FFR.

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Re: can't remove patch
Jul 24, 2003, 00:06
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Re: can't remove patch Jul 24, 2003, 00:06
Jul 24, 2003, 00:06
 
I'm just patiently waiting for the day MS screws up big time and releases a patch that makes every computer not boot..oops, sorry, can't remove it...gotta FFR.

Or you could use said patience, wait a few days or weeks until people are sure the patch is safe, and then install it. That way you don't have to reformat or make stale MS jokes!

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Re: can't remove patch
Jul 24, 2003, 00:08
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Re: can't remove patch Jul 24, 2003, 00:08
Jul 24, 2003, 00:08
 
There was a program that allowed you to remove DirectX 8.1. This was handy for the leaked Beta version that had a time limit on it.
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Re: can't remove patch
Jul 24, 2003, 00:10
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Re: can't remove patch Jul 24, 2003, 00:10
Jul 24, 2003, 00:10
 
That actually already happened once, with a Windows NT 3.51 server update, it was pretty nasty.

Fortunately MOST server guys who use Microsoft know that they need to have complete backups, not just client file backups.

I can understand why patches can't always be removed, or at least, I think I do, it probably has to do with where those patches are installed. If they make a change to an OS critical .dll, it would be a big hassle to store the old one while still keeping it protected, and then swapping them back etc.

So far I have to say that their automatic update system is pretty streamlined. Ofcourse, the fact that every other day there is another "windows critical" patch shows that despite their Trusted Computing broohaha, they still don't know jack shit about security.

Ah well.

Btw, did anybody install this yet? Any noticeable improvements on anything?
I tend to wait with new DirectX's until a game comes out that tells me "You MUST have DirectX (one higher than I've got) installed to play this game!".
Then I try to play it anyways, and only if it's funky do I upgrade.

Creston, firmly remembering the dreaded days of DirectX 1 and 2... (When you had to reinstall your video and audio drivers, because Microsoft decided that their "generic" drivers were much better than your specific ones, and so installed generic ones without asking you.)


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Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 00:16
cia
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Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 00:16
Jul 24, 2003, 00:16
cia
 
MS jokes never get stale. That's because their OS's never work flawlessly. When they do, the jokes will stop.

Can you tell me why these idiots chose to keep all settings in a folder using the LFN 'documents and settings' when they could have stuck with 8.3 and allowed users to boot and swap in a new 'documents and settings' from dos?

XP caches changed DLL automatically, so there is no reason not to be able to rollback if it's a simple DLL change. NO - not system restore! That pile of crap should be turned OFF by default just like Remote Registry and Messenger service! AND why do them from the add/remove programs? Instead you have to disable the services and delete the folders. Scumbags.

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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 00:44
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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 00:44
Jul 24, 2003, 00:44
 
I think the jokes really just stem from the anti-microsoft feelings (based on corporate practices), and those mainly lie in geeks or wannabe's. Show me something that EVER works flawlessly, and don't say Linux. As good as it is, it has its problems too (there's still unsupported or poorly supported hardware out there for linux).

Honestly, if you have good hardware and use the proper drivers, WinXP shouldn't give you a problem. My uptime is usually in the realm of a month at a time, and that's just because I like to reboot once in a blue moon because some update was installed or I need to leave on a trip. And I don't use my PC for fluff-work either, I write major programs (a lot of database and scientific apps) and play the occassional game.

Sure, every now and then you get a poor b@stard that uses a problematic motherboard (a particular VIA chipset comes to mind) or installs some weak software and you hear them whine about how their windows pc is unusable and that windows is a tool of the devil. But I'm sure if THOSE users with THOSE Pc's ran Linux, they'd start running into problems too (either because of hardware problems or incompitence).

I'm all up for open platforms and a *nix based core, but I go with what works and where the software is. Hell, I'd switch to OSX or linux if the apps "I" need become avaiable. But right now, Microsoft is the sweet spot of OS's; development-wise and game-wise.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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?
Jul 24, 2003, 01:00
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Jul 24, 2003, 01:00
 
I wonder, but doubt, if this in anyway addresses the Halflife 2 FSAA issue?

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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 01:37
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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 01:37
Jul 24, 2003, 01:37
 
No, the jokes come because its so funny that microsoft is so stupid.

Like with their Windows 2003, with their secure computing inititive, less than 3 months after it was released a group released an exploit that would let anyone get complete remote control of the system.
Yah, thats nice and secure.


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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 01:44
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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 01:44
Jul 24, 2003, 01:44
 
nm

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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 02:16
RaZ0r!
 
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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 02:16
Jul 24, 2003, 02:16
 RaZ0r!
 
"I'm all up for open platforms and a *nix based core, but I go with what works and where the software is. Hell, I'd switch to OSX or linux if the apps "I" need become avaiable. But right now, Microsoft is the sweet spot of OS's; development-wise and game-wise."

My PC is just a game machine. That's the only thing it's got over other OS's for me. A lot of games. I run OS X on my real computer, now that's a nice OS.

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Re: ?
Jul 24, 2003, 03:33
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Re: ? Jul 24, 2003, 03:33
Jul 24, 2003, 03:33
 
I wonder, but doubt, if this in anyway addresses the Halflife 2 FSAA issue?

No, only DX9.1 can fix the FSAA issue in HL2 and Dx9.1 will not be released before the end of the year.

The other way to fix it is through a graphic driver update but since HL2 is not out yet, neither ATI nor nvidia will comment on the situation. But as Gabe indicated, they are several ways to solve this problem for both companies. Expect to play HL2 in AA modes with both nvidia and ATI cards...

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Re: ?
Jul 24, 2003, 03:50
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Re: ? Jul 24, 2003, 03:50
Jul 24, 2003, 03:50
 
anyone elses framerates go to shit after installing this?

not sure yet whether its this update to blame but I cant really think of anything else that could have done it..

hmm..


edit: whatever the prob was, it went away after i reinstalled my detonators


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Is this the..
Jul 24, 2003, 07:01
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Is this the.. Jul 24, 2003, 07:01
Jul 24, 2003, 07:01
 
Is this the patch that makes DirectX... ahh forget it. Whatever it is, DX is not.

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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions
Jul 24, 2003, 07:18
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Re: Stupid Bill and his minions Jul 24, 2003, 07:18
Jul 24, 2003, 07:18
 
>" I run OS X on my real computer, now that's a nice OS."

Agreed. I've come close to buying a 15" powerbook twice in the last 2 months. Seriously, I'm looking for ANY excuse to buy one. The only thing holding me back from buying Mac has been:

1) no/few games
2) I do development for Windows, and spend some of my free time learning something new or working on a part of a project for work. And my company doesn't use Macs. So it wouldn't help me with this either.

Heck, once I saw that Oracle had finally released a server and client for it, I drove to the local Apple store. But I changed my mind half-way there.

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Here's why...
Jul 24, 2003, 07:52
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Here's why... Jul 24, 2003, 07:52
Jul 24, 2003, 07:52
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Re: ?
Jul 24, 2003, 08:29
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Re: ? Jul 24, 2003, 08:29
Jul 24, 2003, 08:29
 
I thought the AA bug was an Nvidia thing.

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Re: ?
Jul 24, 2003, 08:40
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Re: ? Jul 24, 2003, 08:40
Jul 24, 2003, 08:40
 
thats what the valve guys said...

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ms sux?
Jul 24, 2003, 08:42
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ms sux? Jul 24, 2003, 08:42
Jul 24, 2003, 08:42
 
you can say what you want about them being stupid because their software has bugs - but so does everything..

hl had bugs, quake had bugs, unreal had bugs.. are all the companies responsible stupid? And do you think its harder to program an OS or a game?

at least they patched it - and if theres another vunerability i'm sure that will get patched within a couple of days too.

personally i have great faith in MS. winxp is as stable as a rock for me.

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