Sorry guys, but the legality of modding an Xbox is arguable. It's probably circumvention of copy protection whether or not you use it that way (and using it to play even "legal" backups is using it that way!), which if I recall correctly is a federal crime under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. IANAL, obviously.

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EULAs are also not being upheld in court. I can't remember if it was the third or the ninth district court, but they basically said "We realise that a license agreement is very desirable and profitable for a publisher, but that doesn't make it legally binding."

In this case, yes, you can Mod the hell out of your Xbox, as long as you don't do anything illegal with it. Actually modding your Xbox, and then finding someone to get on Live would be illegal, and MS could sue you. But for just modding your Xbox, they haven't got a leg to stand on and they know it. As much as they want their fucking EULA to rob people of house, wealth and soul, there is still a thing called owner privilege. When you buy an Xbox, you OWN the damn thing, and nothing Microsoft says or does will change the fact that it is your Xbox, to do with as you please.
As long as it doesn't affect anything else that Microsoft owns.

Creston

im going to quote ROTTEN DEADITE from shack news:
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Okay, look, maybe it means nothing, but here's my take:

If you wanna mod your Xbox, go right ahead. It's LEGAL, it's just a violation of your warranty. Just don't bitch when MS disables support for Live or whatever because, just as it's your system, it's their fucking product. And if they decide to stop letting everyone who owns an Xbox (large) controller to get onto Live, that's on them. 'Cause it's their product just as much as it's your property.

If and when MS arrests you for modding your Xbox, they're not arresting you for fucking with their system. They can only arrest you for piratating their games. Which is stealing, no matter how you look at it. If you own all the games you've copied, and only copied for backup purposes, you're in the right (and you could probably counter-sue them).

So go ahead and mod the shit out of your Xbox. It's legal. Shit, give it big flashing neon lights that say "Fuck MS" and teach it to swish around in a tu-tu for your friends. But don't act all high and mighty when you get in trouble for using it to play pirated games that you didn't pay for. And don't get all pissy when you can't get on Xbox Live either.

While we're on the subject, if someone mods their Xbox, MS finds out about it, and then sues them, the strongest leg MS'll have to stand on is if MS claims that the user violated the EULA, and the lawsuit is for a contract violation, not quite as an "illegal" thing as stealing or shooting someone. Contract violation is illegal to keep people from breaking promises. I think EULAs are shitty things to do to people (mostly because I don't think I should have to sign a contract for every little fucking piece of software I install).
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i already did b3

fredster!! fredster!! fredster!!

I knew it was going to be too quiet for some people.

Have fun winding him up nin.

fred, move beyond the anal stage. The oral stage awaits you!

-TPFKAS2S
http://www.braglio.org
My spoon is too big!

Heh, the fact you'd consider those XBox "hackers" part of the Linux community only shows how stupid you really are. Nice troll though.

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Been listening to Roy D. Mercer, have you?

C'mon fredster...PLEEEEASE? I was just telling everyone how cool you were, and now you're gonna back out? You don't want everyone to laugh at you right? The Blue's crowd demands it (or not)!

fredster!! fredster!! fredster!!

Oh, and bonus points if you put a pre-lit roman candle in each ear/nostril...


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I think he likes you.

Hey, Codemasters realised that Colin is driving in a different car now! Nice going!

Creston

edit : nin, why do you keep bothering the troll? He'll never go away if you keep talking to him. Although watching the little fucker burn would be really funny.

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So is that a "no" for the "fredster's Flaming Head Of Liberty" routine? I bet people would reeeeeeeeeally like you here then. Why just the other day, that Bronco fella was saying "You know, if that fredster guy would do something like light his head on fire, I bet he'd be REALLY cool."

Remember, if you get it on video, I'll ask Blue to host it! Hurry up! Times a wastin'!




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Yeah, no Linux demand, AND this vulnerability is no worse than anything that's out there already. Relying on a vulnerability in the dashboard is pointless, cause MS is already fixing it now. Not that it really matters anyway, since you still have to do the 007 trick to hack it.

If someone came upwith a way to burn a CD that allows people to boot an unmodded xbox and run arbitrary code, THEN MS has problems. Someone could put Linux on a CD, a boot loader for pirated games, etc. But until that time all these xbox hacks are more hype than substance.

Microsoft 999, Linux hippies 0

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awwwww....what's the matter lil' fweddy?

BTW, if I send you $20, will you take it, buy $20 worth of Black Cats, wrap them around your head, and then light them? I'd need it on film, too, please...


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YOU ARE GAY MONSter
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Looks like somebody didn't get their linux demand?


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