Games & The Law [Jun 25, 2003, 10:18 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
STLtoday
(thanks Slashdot)
has more on the legal wrangling over game violence in St. Louis (story),
saying: "St. Louis County officials have decided not to give up on
outlawing sale of violent video games to minors despite a recent tide against
their effort. Last week, county lawyers asked that the full 8th U.S. Circuit
Court of Appeals in St. Louis review an adverse decision from a three-member
panel of its judges." Also, 'POSTAL'
Video Game Victorious Over U.S. Postal Service (thanks Frans) is the press
release announcing that a six-year-old lawsuit brought by the U.S. Postal
Service against Running with Scissors over their gratuitously violent action
game "has been dismissed with prejudice" by the Trademark Trial and
Appeals Board of the U.S. Department of Commerce. Included are some barbs aimed
at the Postal Service, Senator Joe Lieberman, and the postmaster general.
see, I don't see why this is such a big deal. they restrict R-rated movies (they enforce it here pretty strongly), why not M-rated games?
If this was a matter of being allowed to sell them at ALL or not, I'd be kinda pissed.
If this was a matter of being allowed to sell them at ALL or not, I'd be kinda pissed.
"We're pleased with the ruling," said Vince Desi, Running With Scissors' battle-hardened CEO, "although everyone involved knows we never should have had to fight this frivolous lawsuit in the first place. Our game is funny. Theirs is sick."
funny.
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funny.
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Diablo & Diablo 2 for the DS, it makes sense Blizzard!
Diablo & Diablo 2 for the DS, it makes sense Blizzard!
I doubt a movie could ever be made with the level of violence and racial, ethnic, and other slurs that Postal 2 has. I don't think that games should be censored, but it should be noted that Game Producing Companies have bigger balls than movie houses.
I think the point is that the government doesn't have the right to enforce movie ratings. It's a voluntary effort the theaters take - and which the industry ensures that they take. So, the argument goes, retailers should be the ones enforcing game ratings.
What's dumb is they ALL know kids are gonna play them anyway, this just causes them a minor inconvenience and wastes a stupid amount of tax dollars. It's all done so they can gain points for the next election with their supporters. Goddamn sheep.
I think butchering human beings and spending almost half a trillion dollars every year to control and destroy life is probably a more disgusting display of violence than any fictitious video game or movie.
The US empire's illegal massacres in various regions throughout the globe over the course of several decades is the most repugnant activity I have witnessed.
And the media-whore press takes a close second for cheerleading this murderous rampage.
The US empire's illegal massacres in various regions throughout the globe over the course of several decades is the most repugnant activity I have witnessed.
And the media-whore press takes a close second for cheerleading this murderous rampage.
For an Anti-USA Advocate, you sure picked an odd name to use 
snafu
Opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one and they usually stink
(all except mine of course)
snafu
Opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one and they usually stink
(all except mine of course)
Eye 4N Eye
Opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one and they usually stink
(all except mine of course)
Opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one and they usually stink
(all except mine of course)
Your message must have been a snafu, because there was no content contained in it.
I am not anti-USA, I am anti-empire! I would love to see America actually come to fruition! The bill of rights is the only thing keeping us from becomming a total plutocracy, and it is being attacked and shredded at every turn.
I am not anti-USA, I am anti-empire! I would love to see America actually come to fruition! The bill of rights is the only thing keeping us from becomming a total plutocracy, and it is being attacked and shredded at every turn.
I am not anti-USA, I am anti-empire! I would love to see America actually come to fruition! The bill of rights is the only thing keeping us from becomming a total plutocracy, and it is being attacked and shredded at every turn.
Confirming once again that the European Union is the land of milk and honey.
"Save the attitude for someone who cares." - Judge Dredd.
Re: US EMPIRE BREATHES VIOLENCE AND DEATH
Jun 25, 2003, 13:38
Jun 25, 2003, 13:38
I am not anti-USA, I am anti-empire! I would love to see America actually come to fruition! The bill of rights is the only thing keeping us from becomming a total plutocracy, and it is being attacked and shredded at every turn.
Make sure your wearing your aluminum foil cap while typing that otherwise the CIA will be able to track your thoughts! Shhh, Quiet! Did you hear that? The stealth helicoptors are coming!
So that's where the fredster has gone. Good to see you, buddy.
ZigZang
Whoa, looks like the leftwing fruitcakes are everywhere, even on game sites. How disturbing.
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Armchair gamedevs since 1997.
Armchair gamedevs since 1997.
So that's where the fredster has gone. Good to see you, buddy.
fredster with a dictionary and a spell-checker...it's the anti-fredster!
For what it's worth, welcome aboard, cia...
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This case should have never been brought up. But of course it wasn't and wasted everyones time and money. You can thank the liberals in the justice system for that.
This comment was edited on Jun 25, 14:14.
This comment was edited on Jun 25, 14:14.
I saw Fred in a Vietcong thread the other day. His message consisted solely of the text:
"Vietschlong"
It was about the first funny thing I've ever seen him say.
As for this... some films do include such graphic violence and racial/sexual slurs as Postal/2 but they are the fringe things, same as Postal/2 is on the fringe of the gaming industry.
As games get more realistic you can expect these rules to tighten and rightfully so. If Postal/2 were made totally photo-realistic and played like a movie it would be banned, because any film that realistic would be banned too.
Games should be rated, and the ratings enforced, same as for film.
"Vietschlong"
It was about the first funny thing I've ever seen him say.
As for this... some films do include such graphic violence and racial/sexual slurs as Postal/2 but they are the fringe things, same as Postal/2 is on the fringe of the gaming industry.
As games get more realistic you can expect these rules to tighten and rightfully so. If Postal/2 were made totally photo-realistic and played like a movie it would be banned, because any film that realistic would be banned too.
Games should be rated, and the ratings enforced, same as for film.
I wish the US postal service would have won so maybe we'd never have to see another horrible game come from RWS ever again.
"The" Dan
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ExcessDan
Remember that this lawsuit concers the ORIGINAL Postal, not Postal 2. The first Postal was an excellent game, with many innovations that carried into further top/side scrolling hybrids.
It's too bad Postal 2 ended up so spectacularly craptastic that I've lost all respect for RWS that I once had for their original creation.
Shock Value > Gameplay != Fun.
-DSR
EDIT: moved the equation onto its own line for easier viewing. For those who aren't in the know: != means does not equal.
This comment was edited on Jun 25, 15:23.
It's too bad Postal 2 ended up so spectacularly craptastic that I've lost all respect for RWS that I once had for their original creation.
Shock Value > Gameplay != Fun.
-DSR
EDIT: moved the equation onto its own line for easier viewing. For those who aren't in the know: != means does not equal.
This comment was edited on Jun 25, 15:23.
i learned that in my java class this summer
i'm special
"The" Dan
Supporter of the "A happy fredster is an unmuted fredster" fanclub.
i'm special
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ExcessDan
I saw Fred in a Vietcong thread the other day. His message consisted solely of the text:
"Vietschlong"
It was about the first funny thing I've ever seen him say.
Hahahaha, that's brilliant!
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what's the temperature in that cave? it's gotta be 95 degrees in my cave and i'm on the 22nd floor and theres no breeze coming through my huge window!!!! KILL ME!!!
"The" Dan
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ExcessDan
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