BF 1942 SitRep

An update to the Battlefield 1942 Website (thanks Frans) has further thoughts after hearing feedback on their recently announced anti-cheating plans (story). Here's the deal:
With the recent announcement of the 1.4 patch and our aggressive stance against cheating, some misconceptions about the patch were made. We’d like to take this time to clear a few things up, and make a special announcement.

First and foremost, server side mods will not be killed with the 1.4 patch. This means that mods like Desert Combat will continue to function as they have in the past. Secondly, we’ve listened to all of the concerned players who don’t want to lose their favorite client side mods, like the merciless mod. To help make Battlefield 1942 a great experience for everyone, DICE and EA have come up with a solution that should work for all players. In the 1.4 patch, there will be a server side option regarding content checks. When this option is turned on by the server admin, players who are using client side mods will not be able to connect to the server. When this option is turned off, players can join the server with any of the client side mods that they have. We feel that this option provides support for both players that enjoy their client side mods (merciless mod), and those that want to ensure everyone in the game is playing with the same skins/crosshairs etc.
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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 27, 2003, 04:08
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 27, 2003, 04:08
Apr 27, 2003, 04:08
 
Dantastic, from that manure field of "crap mods", to continue your colorful metaphor, come those few good mods that you do want made. The less support, the fewer mods total and, in the end, the fewer good mods. And if you don't like a mod, well, nobody's twisting your arm...

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 13:08
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 13:08
Apr 26, 2003, 13:08
 
Yea, my clan made me ritually sacrifice a goat and mingle it's blood with my own. Each member then got to try my sister free for an evening. hahaahaa, those guys...

Yea I remember those days. The EMU and pSi heretic clan days...

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 12:51
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 12:51
Apr 26, 2003, 12:51
 
for one thing checking off allowed mods to use wouldn't really work since the hacks are used with the merciless mod so i've heard

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imagine if a good user-end sdk were released

yes we'd have a bunch of crap mods that no one plays like in any other game... there's only ever a few decent mods that ever come out for any game.. lucky if you get more than 1 which makes it a bonus that n00bs won't be able to attempt a mod for this game.


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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 10:50
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 10:50
Apr 26, 2003, 10:50
 
Releasing mod tools should only increase the popularity of the franchise (case in point, Half-Life). There are dozens upon dozens of mods being done for BF '42 as it is now, imagine if a good user-end sdk were released?

I think EA would only do it if it somehow substantially increased ther profits within the fiscal year. Building a good solid mod community takes time, something EA doesn't have the sack to do.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 10:22
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 10:22
Apr 26, 2003, 10:22
 
Yeah, EA can be a little "distant" at times when it comes to support, but you have to remember that 1942 is EA's new golden cow. Consider, Road to Rome, Secret Weapons, BF 2, no mod tools. They will do only what is necessary to no kill this thing completely.
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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 08:48
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 08:48
Apr 26, 2003, 08:48
 
Still think they should have taken this one step further and allow the server mods to say what client side mods they want (with file checking)... they could check which mods that they have they want others to be able to use on their server...

consider ourselves lucky that EA even bothered to have it addressed. they are notoriously apathetic when it comes to the needs/wants of the gaming community. No doubt the guys at DICE had to badger the hell out of the suits at EA to even get this approved.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 08:07
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 08:07
Apr 26, 2003, 08:07
 
Yea, my clan made me ritually sacrifice a goat and mingle it's blood with my own. Each member then got to try my sister free for an evening. hahaahaa, those guys...

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 26, 2003, 04:25
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 26, 2003, 04:25
Apr 26, 2003, 04:25
 
Still think they should have taken this one step further and allow the server mods to say what client side mods they want (with file checking)... they could check which mods that they have they want others to be able to use on their server...


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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 23:50
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 23:50
Apr 25, 2003, 23:50
 
Yeah, most clans want you to miss work or stay home and not go out into the real world and practice or have clan matches.. no thanks!

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 23:22
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 23:22
Apr 25, 2003, 23:22
 
I only play with soup and we call that a clan. The thing about clans are that they stop being fun after a while because you HAVE to stay active and then playing is just like work and the game isn't fun. Also you have to do recruiting and then make sure your clan members don't fall off the face of the Earth. Pain in the ass. I used to be a leader of an I'76 clan back in the day... semi-good times

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 22:56
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 22:56
Apr 25, 2003, 22:56
 
Bah! nothing new here folks. this is the same thing all q3 engine games do. pure or not pure. hacks for both. cheating will NEVER be stopped. your best bet for a fair game, is a personal clan of friends, and buying your own hosting service where you play it your way. That's what my q3 clan ended up doing. we simply couldnt put up with the kids or the cheating anymore. I remember the days when gaming was FUN!

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 22:55
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 22:55
Apr 25, 2003, 22:55
 
we'll have to see about if everyone is going to be happy... it all depends on the number of servers that have it enabled vs the number of servers that have it disabled

just thought of Dice's new reply to ppl complaining about cheats: not our problem, its the server admin's problem

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 22:33
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 22:33
Apr 25, 2003, 22:33
 
#6: It gives people their choice Soupkin, between avoiding cheaters and putting up with it for the sake of their client side mods. What's the problem with that? If you don't want to deal with the little cheating b@stards, just stick with the servers that don't allow it. I'm pleasantly surprised that they came up with a solution that *should* make everybody happy.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 22:05
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 22:05
Apr 25, 2003, 22:05
 
I just see it as a toggle for easy cheating on/off

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 21:58
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 21:58
Apr 25, 2003, 21:58
 
Wow, Props to DICE and EA for going to extra mile to please the customer.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 21:37
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 21:37
Apr 25, 2003, 21:37
 
but would you rather play with cheaters for a bit of red stuff coming out of the enemy?

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 21:30
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 21:30
Apr 25, 2003, 21:30
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Yay! The only features I care is the blood patch and graphics. Everything else I can live without.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 21:28
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 21:28
Apr 25, 2003, 21:28
 
common sense my ass. your poor little mod for crosshairs and load screens are going to be filled the brim with cheaters using fog cheats and who knows what else. I just hope theres some good servers with no client mods.


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Merciless 1942 = Poopoo
Apr 25, 2003, 21:26
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Merciless 1942 = Poopoo Apr 25, 2003, 21:26
Apr 25, 2003, 21:26
 
I've seen this already days ago but unofficially. I'll only be playing in the content check servers.

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Re: Merciless 1942
Apr 25, 2003, 20:59
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Re: Merciless 1942 Apr 25, 2003, 20:59
Apr 25, 2003, 20:59
 
Yeah! A common sense solution!

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