BF1942 Battle Plan - No Client Mods

The Battlefield 1942 Website has details on what's to be included in the upcoming version 1.4 patch for DICE's World War II shooter. The update includes word that client-side mods are to be disabled in the future as part of their effort at eradicating cheating and exploits:
A note on cheating and exploits -- we've all seen how cheating can destroy the gameplay experience for everyone. EA and DICE take cheating seriously and we are taking an aggressive stance in preventing exploits which allow people to cheat. The biggest source of all BF cheats and exploits are client-side modifications. With the release of patch 1.4, we are disabling all client-side mods. Unfortunately, this means that the client side mods that aren't used for cheating will also be affected. DICE and EA have spent the past few months trying to engineer a solution which allows client-side mods to work while stopping the cheats. Ultimately it proved impossible to do so in such a way that prevented future client side mods from opening up new methods of cheating and exploitation. However, this doesn't mean that all mods are unusable. By making the mods into full server-side mods (Desert Combat for example), everyone can experience the cool factor that these mods offer.
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Apr 24, 2003, 15:33
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Apr 24, 2003, 15:33
 
:_(

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Apr 24, 2003, 15:24
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No subject Apr 24, 2003, 15:24
Apr 24, 2003, 15:24
 
This will not prevent the new loader binaries cheats that are present in memory while the game is running, no files needed to be modified for it.

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Apr 24, 2003, 02:30
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Apr 24, 2003, 02:30
 
i love battlefield
if i were given a choice to play one game (new or old) nonstop for all eternity i would have to choose bf1942 and have no regrets... well maybe some regrets after 5 years and there's no more servers and im forced to play the atrocious single player

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Re: No subject
Apr 22, 2003, 02:59
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Re: No subject Apr 22, 2003, 02:59
Apr 22, 2003, 02:59
 
I just finished playing some battlefield. Can't wait for that 1.4 patch to come out. Needs to be a lot easier to vote someone off the server. I believe it's possible now but theres no interface, just console commands.

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Apr 22, 2003, 00:06
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Re: No subject Apr 22, 2003, 00:06
Apr 22, 2003, 00:06
 
i want to piss all over your mouth

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Apr 21, 2003, 17:11
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Re: No subject Apr 21, 2003, 17:11
Apr 21, 2003, 17:11
 
Too bad now we won't be able to play the Postal 2 mod for this game when it comes out. When you shoot someone piss and blood fly out of them. It helps you tell that you hit them and that you're 12.

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Apr 21, 2003, 15:26
Ant
 
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Apr 21, 2003, 15:26
 Ant
 
HoboMojo: Red color is easier to see at a distance if you hit the target. Cursor flash and hit animations are hard to see at a distance and with a lot of light colors.

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Apr 21, 2003, 02:20
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Apr 21, 2003, 02:20
 
yeah its more about gore for me.. i like a bit of red every now and then.
but ill give it all up for no cheaters.

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Apr 20, 2003, 20:41
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Apr 20, 2003, 20:41
 
If you hit someone from a distance you can't see any hit animation. Usually it's smarter to fire at someone from a distance than to run right up to them and fire on them to observe the cool hit animations.

"The" Dan
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Apr 20, 2003, 20:20
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Apr 20, 2003, 20:20
 
I never understood why people say they needed the blood patch to see if they where hitting someone. Since day 1 of release it was possible just by seeing the hit animation of the person taking a round. Then later they added the flash to the crosshairs as well.

It's one thing using the blood patch cuz you want a bit more gore...but to say you need it to tell if your scoring hits is just lame.

The only mods I would have been intersted would be something some like the Tribes 1/2 scripts

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 13:35
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 13:35
Apr 20, 2003, 13:35
 
I couldn't really call them "improved" crosshairs. Removing crosshairs for the pistol didn't seem like an improvement to me.

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 11:27
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 11:27
Apr 20, 2003, 11:27
 
I think Merciless (and other mods like it) definately are worth sacrificing if it means a cheat-free environment. Its still just 'extra' stuff that noone really needs, like improved crosshairs/splashscreens etc. Too bad for the teams who has put alot of work into their mod, guess they will have to go client/server-side like DC?

Glad improvements are beeing made in BF, two new weapons and a Linux-server is helluva good news to me!

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 11:24
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 11:24
Apr 20, 2003, 11:24
 
Cheaters suck! I was playing Omaha beach once, and there was this sniper in the hills far away that I could NOT see at all. I had him dead to rights in my cross air as I could see his name, but I could not see him at all. Regardless, he kept sniping me until I gave up on him.

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 02:44
Ant
 
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 02:44
Apr 20, 2003, 02:44
 Ant
 
Soupkin: What about the cool skins, textures, blood patch, etc.? Those are the best!

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
 
i rather have no cheaters

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
Apr 20, 2003, 01:39
 
who cares its got nothing to offer but shit crosshairs and goofy load screens

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Re: Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 01:38
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Re: Dan Apr 20, 2003, 01:38
Apr 20, 2003, 01:38
 
that was actually what i was waiting to hear

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Dan
Apr 20, 2003, 01:17
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Dan Apr 20, 2003, 01:17
Apr 20, 2003, 01:17
 
There is quite a lot of files within our release. We are sorry we cannot give you a single line install option for everything. Version 4.0 will include everything as default but will give you the ability to remove what you want easily. We hope you try 4.0 in the coming week and give us second judgement.

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Re: Save Merciless 1942
Apr 20, 2003, 00:53
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Re: Save Merciless 1942 Apr 20, 2003, 00:53
Apr 20, 2003, 00:53
 
Why doesn't your mod let you pick which features you want installed 9(ex: blood and flags only)? 3/4 of the features that it installed ruined my game and made it crap.

Anyways, Merciless being sacrificed for a more cheat free game seems like a pretty good compromise to me.

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Save Merciless 1942
Apr 20, 2003, 00:42
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Save Merciless 1942 Apr 20, 2003, 00:42
Apr 20, 2003, 00:42
 
Thank you all for your kind words and support.

We at Merciless, agree patch 1.4 is a great thing except the fact that client side mods will be ceased. This is a double edged sword... client side mods have produced many budding texture artists, sounds modders, and even Desert Combat and Merciless 1942. Alas it has also allowed cheaters. We are asking Dice and EA for a stay of execution on our mod due to the amount of fans that we have and supports of us in the community. We want to be cheat proof and also want 1942 to be cheat free. There is a way we can exist as a secure client side mod along with patch 1.4 and the security it will include. I envision that our prior "open texturepacks" would become closed but we would accept this to continue to provide MC1942 to our fans and not be forced server side.

Patch 1.4 is a step in the right direction and also a step back for modders and Merciless. If there is any possible way to salvage this scenario, we hope that EA and Dice may consider this. Without mods, a game does not grow. Being forced into a server side mod does not yeild the freedom that Merciless 1942 had... just get on any server and play.
We are willing to work with EA and Dice towards a successful solution but it is up to them and you fans to ask EA and Dice to do so. Voice your opinions, you are the community... sign the petition... email them your thoughts on this. We can only hope to reach a secure truce on this matter for patch 1.4.

Godspeed,

Prowlinger
www.MercilessCreations.com


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