MG Solid 2 Substance on DVD Only

HomeLan Fed is reporting having confirmed that due to its large size, the upcoming PC release of Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance will be on DVD-ROM only, with no CD-ROM distribution planned at all.
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Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
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Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
 
All I can say is that is a mistake. The casual gamer does not necesarily have a DVD Rom... talk about someone needing to fire their market research/distribution team. I care nothing about this game... but this is absolutely abismal...

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No subject
Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
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No subject Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
Mar 21, 2003, 18:01
 
Perhaps if they took out half of the totally CRAP and POINTLESS cut-scenes and actually put a little more GAMEPLAY into the damn P.O.S then it would fit onto a CD...

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Re: No subject
Mar 21, 2003, 18:06
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Re: No subject Mar 21, 2003, 18:06
Mar 21, 2003, 18:06
 
Well I wasn't that excited about this game in the first place, at least not enough to buy a DVD-ROM. This just sort of cements my decision not to buy it.

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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 18:13
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 18:13
Mar 21, 2003, 18:13
 
Are you serious? DVD ROM drives have been pretty much standard in PCs for like three years. I've been waiting the day when I stop getting 4-disc distributions of the games I buy, it's getting absurd. Also, this will help cut down piracy a bit, at least for a small while. The warez people will no doubt find ways to bypass, but it's more trouble.

I myself have a DVD+RW and it's fantastic, but I know I'm not in the general gaming populace. Still, you can get a perfectly capable DVD ROM drive for $50

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Re: No subject
Mar 21, 2003, 18:20
Quboid
 
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Re: No subject Mar 21, 2003, 18:20
Mar 21, 2003, 18:20
 Quboid
 
Personally I think it's about time games became DVD only. 3 or 4 CDs is getting too common. You can buy a DVD-ROM drive for about the cost of a new game - all the people who have bought The Sims could have a DVD drive, a life and a fortune saved in expansion packs if they'd reconsidered.

Buying a DVD drive so you can play one game isn't right and I wouldn't go for that. But buying a DVD drive so you can play a significant number of new games, get more free crap if you buy game mags and watch movies is fair enough - much like buying a CD drive so you could save hassle with floppy disks, play a significant number of new games and listen to music was fair enough 7 years ago.

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Re: No subject
Mar 21, 2003, 18:28
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Re: No subject Mar 21, 2003, 18:28
Mar 21, 2003, 18:28
 
More games need to come on DVD. DVD roms have been coming standard for years now, in systems, and or very cheap to add to an excisiting PC (on about $30).

I am tired of seeing games come on 2-4 CDs and still feel like they had things cut for space.

There is no reason for games not to be on DVD.

People complained when the first games required 8 MB of memory, or required soundcards, or required CDROMS, or required Windows 95, or required Hardware Acceleration, or Required Hardware T&L. This requirement is long over due, and I welcome it.

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No subject
Mar 21, 2003, 18:33
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No subject Mar 21, 2003, 18:33
Mar 21, 2003, 18:33
 
I have no room on my computer to put in my dvd rom, so it sits in my drawer...


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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 18:34
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 18:34
Mar 21, 2003, 18:34
 
FINALLY someone gets it right. Why bother with 4 or 5 CD releases anymore. It just doesn't make sense. What kind of gimp doesn't have a DVD-ROM, they are like 30 bucks now.

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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 18:37
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 18:37
Mar 21, 2003, 18:37
 
The casual gamer already has MGS2 on PS2.
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Finally!
Mar 21, 2003, 18:42
indiv
 
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Finally! Mar 21, 2003, 18:42
Mar 21, 2003, 18:42
 indiv
 
It's about time! Back in the days of the floppy disk to CD transition, most companies released their games on both floppies and CDs (in different packages) to reach the whole market. I hope we skip this step altogether for the CD to DVD transition, and it'd be great to see all games get released on DVD within a year or two.


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Re: Finally indeed
Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
NSi
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Re: Finally indeed Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
NSi
 
While I couldn't give a flying crap about this POS game, I very much welcome the move to DVD. DVD ROMs are ridiculously cheap now, and this will help them get even cheaper.
Bring them on!

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Re: Finally!
Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
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Re: Finally! Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
Mar 21, 2003, 18:47
 
got no problem with games coming out on DVD ROM only, much better than the increasingly regular game releases on multiple CD's (U2, UT2K3, SC, RS etc) bout bloody time!

MGS however *should* probably come out on DVD ROM only since its a feckin movie with a semi interactive game buried somewhere deep, deep down inside

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I have to agree
Mar 21, 2003, 18:48
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I have to agree Mar 21, 2003, 18:48
Mar 21, 2003, 18:48
 
DVD drives are standard on all new machines and have been for a while, as well as being reasonably priced all round.

I'm quite keen to stop seeing 3 discs with 2 for install and one for play, this could well cut down on the install footprint for some of these games.

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Re: Finally!
Mar 21, 2003, 18:51
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Re: Finally! Mar 21, 2003, 18:51
Mar 21, 2003, 18:51
 

Come on, its about time they started doing this.

Most new games, and MGS2 also, will require a 1gig processor and a decent graphics card and so forth. DVD drives have been on new computers since ~500mhz, and any "casual gamer" has to keep with the times.

How many machines with a high enough spec to run games like this DON'T have a DVD drive??? Besides, they only cost about £25 now, its hardly going to break the bank.

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Re: I have to agree
Mar 21, 2003, 18:57
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Re: I have to agree Mar 21, 2003, 18:57
Mar 21, 2003, 18:57
 
DVD Drives are only standard if you don't build the PC yourself. What reason do I have to have a DVD drive? Seriously. I don't watch movies on my PC. So what would be the point? I won't be buying this game...

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there has to be...
Mar 21, 2003, 19:16
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there has to be... Mar 21, 2003, 19:16
Mar 21, 2003, 19:16
 
a better reason to adapt dvd roms, wheres our generations version of the 7th guest?

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Games on DVD = sweet!
Mar 21, 2003, 19:30
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Games on DVD = sweet! Mar 21, 2003, 19:30
Mar 21, 2003, 19:30
 
Nice! This is good progress. The CD-ROM is at least 10 years old, 650MB media just can’t cut it for ever. Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if we saw the next generation of optical-removable media (consumer level) released in the next few years.

I know this will be an issue for some gamers, but there's no better way to increase industry support. And, come on, DVD-ROM drives are considerably inexpensive these days. I see many going for as low as $15 on eBay. Of course, this is not to mention, I'm sure this is also about the publisher saving money. I'm betting its less expensive to manufacture one DVD these days than multiple CDs.

In the long run, this is a good move for not only publishers, but developers and gamers alike. Sure, some might take issue with the abundance of cut scenes in Solid Substance, but many games _will_ benefit from the increased space garnered through greater DVD-ROM market share.

Funny, this brings to mind another DVD-ROM game… Enter the Matrix. I was reading a recent article about how Shiny was facing the dilemma of cramming their game into 5GB. Made me wonder how they will have to gimp the GameCube version and it’s proprietary 1GBG-CD?! I’m sure we’ll all want them to cut out as much crappy bullet-time cinematics as possible, eh? They’re filming this game in conjunction with the 2nd and 3rd Matrix films, btw.

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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 19:31
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 19:31
Mar 21, 2003, 19:31
 
Didn't anyone read the HomeLan Fed article linked from today's Morning Q&A? While I'm happy to see games being sold on DVDs, the article goes into detail from game developers as to why they still release on CD.

edit:
Hrm. HomeLan seems borked right now. Bleah.

This comment was edited on Mar 21, 19:33.
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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 19:44
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 19:44
Mar 21, 2003, 19:44
 
Bout time, ALL game should come out on DVD. It's long overdue.

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Re: Ummm... Mistake....
Mar 21, 2003, 20:15
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Re: Ummm... Mistake.... Mar 21, 2003, 20:15
Mar 21, 2003, 20:15
 
Didn't anyone read the HomeLan Fed article linked from today's Morning Q&A?

I did.

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