I have been questioned for posting the alleged Sharon quote on a local forum. The "questioner" used the same CAMERA site as a reference. So, in turn I had to look around some too.
I found the CAMERA site to be a pro-Israeli site, even maligning Rachel Corrie. On that site all Palestinian action is "terrorist" and Israeli action is "justified".
So... in these muddied waters, with lies flying so often from all sides, it really is difficult to see the subjective
"truth".

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Well its been over a year nad there have been no WMD found. The Senate has said it and the UN has said it. The 9/11 comission also said there is no connection between OBL and Iraq. Looks like all the reasons for the war have been proven wrong yet we still are stuck in this mess. So [SPZ]SPANKER and company it turns out babar, the UN, the "peace-necks", The liberals and oh yes the french were all right.

[SPZ]SPANKER and the reast of the rest of you who supported the war because there was wmd are you going to apologize to babar?

Well its been a while but it looks like Bush is a failure and the Iraq war was based on lies.

>Hey babar, you still sore over the Florida votes ey?

What does that have to do with the fact that Bush lied about Iraq having WMD?

http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

Hey babar, you still sore over the Florida votes ey?

> They were planning to rebuild nukes in the future....

We illegally invaded Iraq because according to Bush they had WMD and they were an immediate threat to our way of life, not that they planed to make WMD in the future and when that time came they would be a threat. HUGE difference.

It amazes me that after all this time there are still people out there that believe anything and everything the Bush Administration says. It's kinda sad, if you really think about it.

On August 26, 2002, the Vice President said, "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

In early January of this year, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer stated, "We know for a fact that there are weapons there."

Just two days before the U.S. launched its first attacks on Iraq, the President told the nation, “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.”

Yet, all we've been able to find is a few pieces of 1 gas centrifuge system buried under a rose bush in some guys back yard.

This http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/uscentrifuge.jpg is a picture of an actual complete gas centrifuge facility in the United States, covering 750 acres. The reason it is so big is because it takes HUNDREDS of gas centrifuges, shown here http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/centri.jpg, to produce even miniscule amounts of uranium 235. Facilities for producing uranium 235 for power reactors or weapons are therefore huge. A single gas centrifuge is useless except for laboratory experiments involving microscopic amounts of materials.

Where's the factory? Buried under a neighbors rose bush? ROFL!

Until we find tons of anthrax, tons of nerve gas, and nuclear missles that are assembled and ready launch, I stand by my statement that Bush lied and Iraq did not have WMD and were not a threat to our way of life.

Bush, and his entire administration, need to be impeached ASAP before they start more illegal wars where innocent people die.

Obeidi told CNN that the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system that he was ordered to hide, so as to be ready to rebuild the bomb program at some time in the future. (Interactive: How uranium is enriched)

CNN Security Correspondent David Ensor reports that under United Nations sanctions in place in 1991, the concealment of such materials -- and failure to disclose their presence -- would have constituted violations of Security Council regulations.

Yeah babar, what the hell, it's just another broken resolution. They were planning to rebuild nukes in the future, but don't worry they're no threat, it's cool.

>how about them cookies?

Taken from your link:

"U.S. officials: Find is not smoking gun"

Close, but no cigar. Keep trying and please let me know when they find all the tons of anthrax and nerve gas, and the nuclear weapons that are actually assembled and ready to launch.

Well, well, babar, looks like we found proof in your buddies backyard.......

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html

how about them cookies? You shlong-donger!!!!

-Spanker has Spankend

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Too bad they don't have oil. If they did, we'd already be there "liberating" them. :-(

BTW, still no WMD have been found in Iraq. :-)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/06/05/congo.genocide/index.html

Number 400????

The liberals are so pathetic.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html

Couple of good reads from both sides.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-662789,00.html

and

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003453


An example of how the paleo-liberal left has fallen so deeply into self-parody that any comedian with a shred of common sense need look no further for political material for years to come.

>How about North Korea? Should we not go in and bomb them into the stone age?

Problem almost solved without having to bomb them into the stone age. I told you that war wasn't the answer to everything. You ready to change your mind on this one?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&ncid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20030428/ap_on_re_as/us_koreas_nuclear

A small part of the article:

"The North Korean offer to swap their military might in exchange for economic benefits echoed a similar proposal three months ago by President Bush (news - web sites).

Bush said then that if North Korea dismantles its nuclear weapons programs, the United States would be willing to assist the country with its food and energy needs."

I follow a strict code of if it's a forward or e-mail from someone I don't know to not believe it.

I take that a step further, even if it's from someone I know I usually don't believe it.

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Seeing how it's spam mail it could have came from anywhere. I follow a strict code of if it's a forward or e-mail from someone I don't know to not believe it.

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Robin William's plan...(hard to argue withthis logic!)

Wow, I can't believe Robin Williams said that, it actually seems completely unlike him. I actually wonder if it is in fact the words of Robin Williams or not.

PZ
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These are the things I automatically delete in my inbox.

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