Screw Duke what ever happened to Team Fortress 2? That baby is MIA for at least three years or more... along with HL2. Oh, that's right they made some radical changes too...

They did indeed. Behind closed doors at E3 they were showing off TF2 powered by the Tribes 2 engine.

This comment was edited on Jan 15, 13:45.

#88 - problem I have with that is most of the reviews or comments I've heard from journos slagging off or expressing a dislike for HL, GTA3 etc is they are doing it to be controversial and have no real substance behind their comments. Unless you can point to a site / mag with a good arguement ??



"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering - Bruce Lee"

" find in the UK you can usually trust PCZone to give it to you straight if a game is one to avoid or not, and on the online front there are lots of unbiased sites out there who'll carry pretty darn accurate reviews (usually well before the mags get to print)"

Ok, here's a challenge. Someone try to find a reviewer that dislikes Half-Life and Grand Theft Auto 3/Vice City. If you do, I might have a winner on my hands.

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The possible pain, suffering and sacrifice of discovery are by no means an excuse to remain ignorant.

"Here's another thesis: every gaming news thread that runs long enough will inevitably end up as a Duke Nukem "when does it come" thread. More than enough evidence for that"

Screw Duke what ever happened to Team Fortress 2? That baby is MIA for at least three years or more... along with HL2. Oh, that's right they made some radical changes too...

Hmmm. Just reflected on this thread - how did it end up being about DN again?

Anyone know that age-old thesis that any flame-war on usenet that runs long enough will inevitably produce Nazi-references at some point or another?

Here's another thesis: every gaming news thread that runs long enough will inevitably end up as a Duke Nukem "when does it come" thread. More than enough evidence for that

"Heh - yup. That was before we made some pretty radical changes. Oh well...live and learn."

Radical changes? At this point in development?!!!

And which point is that? No one knows how close they are to finishing the game (except themselves --- I hope :)).

I can't help myself, still waiting for it. And if the worst happens I'll just buy it for my grandson/daughter (in a few decades) and pretend to "help" them to play it


This comment was edited on Jan 15, 08:14.

U hit that nail on the head Von Helmet!

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering - Bruce Lee"

Should change the name to Duke Nukem Whenever

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,57023-3,00.html

"Radical changes" = we started again. Should change the name to Duke Nukem Whenever

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering - Bruce Lee"

"Unreal 2 will not ship before DNF"

- George Broussard, on VE3D forums, several months ago.

And if you find that funny...

Broussard's retort made today on evilavatar's forums:

"Heh - yup. That was before we made some pretty radical changes. Oh well...live and learn."

Radical changes? At this point in development?!!!

My god. I held the faith longer than anyone but I give up.

Looking at the official forums for U2 - there is no_plan whatsoever for a demo of the game.

So what is it about mag reviews that no one seems to trust these days ? In place of a demo there has to be something that makes gamers go and and buy doesn't there ?

I know the big thing with mags is that to make *any* money they have to bring in lots of ad revenue and they *do* get pressure from publishers on that front (I know from first hand experience of that) but surely there are some out there that you can trust ? They aren't ALL hacks

I find in the UK you can usually trust PCZone to give it to you straight if a game is one to avoid or not, and on the online front there are lots of unbiased sites out there who'll carry pretty darn accurate reviews (usually well before the mags get to print)


"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering - Bruce Lee"

Thus spake Zarathrustra

remember a few years ago when people used to actually like games. Remember fun, people? Now its just wave after wave of junior hellspawn and little snot-nosed thieves competing to see who can be the most vile and narcissistic

Of course it could be that you've just grown up and spotted the downside of having a sizeable proportion of your audience being snotty nosed geeks.



Anvil

so in my opinion their playing that game for free, while illegal and pirating, is NOT costing you any money. They never would have bought it anyways. Their playing it or not playing it isn't affecting your bottom line

ROTFLMAO

Get real, tell me with a straight face you've never, ever bought anything on a whim because it seemed like you might like it, and then I'll believe that none of them would ever have bought those games anyways. Some would never buy them, true, but not all, so in the end, the bottom line is affected

This comment was edited on Jan 15, 05:52.

Yeah. Perhaps it is worth it shelling out moolah just to see gorgeous graphics.

I mean, not to be too harsh on a game, but a demo would secure the knot. So if the game is bad, I'll keep it just to run through.

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The possible pain, suffering and sacrifice of discovery are by no means an excuse to remain ignorant.

I'm waiting for the feb-04-2003 to buy this excelent game.
Anyone who played and ended Unreal and Unreal Mission Pack, will buy this game for sure. Even if there is no demo.

I'm not sure what the craze over the Ford Focus is about.

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The possible pain, suffering and sacrifice of discovery are by no means an excuse to remain ignorant.

Off topic but worth the post.

Hey dayknight, check out www.focaljet.com It's a focus enthusiest site with over (barley) 10,000 members! The forums are great but the main page is rarley updated, due to the owner being an extremely busy man. We would appreciate you stopping by, signing up and just saying "Hi." I'm sure you'll get loads of nice responces, we are more of a family there and accept any car enthusiest. As long as they are not there to cause trouble.

~Halo

This comment was edited on Jan 15, 02:12.

"Six years, and I drive a Ford Focus. "

Dayknight, what the hell is wrong with a Ford Focus??

Btw ignore fredrickson, he's just a troll, he has no life except to come on here posting useless drivel in some form of communication which was never invented by man.

I agree with you that piracy is, plain and simple, illegal and steals money from guys like you that make games in order to make a buck (and hopefully because you enjoy it).

However, I don't really accept that line that "the business is on the verge of ex/imploding and it's all because of piracy!" For one, I can refer to the figures that 'The Gaming Industry' posted just one year ago, figures that said The Industry had a gross revenue of 6 BILLION dollars the year before, thereby defeating Hollywood by a margin of one billion (which was debatable).

If it was really on the verge of going bunk, as you say, it wouldn't have been growing by double and even triple digit margins, and raking in revenues of six billion dollars, now would it?

And before you point to consoles as being the bulk of those sales (which they are), please do remember that console games are being haxxored just as badly as PC games are. In fact, I had a discussion with a guy who works for Rage about it, and he said that his company moving to the consoles was forever going to erase the blemish of piracy. Errrmmm yeah... Good luck with that. (ofcourse, the 350 million dollars Microsoft paid them probably will erase ANY bad memory.)
Console games are hacked, but they still sell truckloads of discs. Apparently the PC game industry no longer does. (what might be the cause of that BESIDES piracy, is a different discussion altogether.)

You see, I don't really buy that big party line that says "If there are 5000 games being pirated, that's 5000 games we don't sell."
I'm firmly convinced that of those 5000 pirated copies, if all those people did not have access to pirated copies, you'd have only sold perhaps a tenth of them. Most people who play pirated software that I know (which, granted, is less than a handful) wouldn't have bought the titles that they pirated. These people DO buy quite a lot of games, so in my opinion their playing that game for free, while illegal and pirating, is NOT costing you any money. They never would have bought it anyways. Their playing it or not playing it isn't affecting your bottom line.

I will agree that they also have no right to play something for free, as they should pay you for what you worked for, but alas, it's an imperfect world.

Just something to remember. I'm getting a bit fed up with every single problem in the digital universe currently being placed at the feet of piracy and those 'nasty haxxors'. (even though Silicon Valley and those idiots at the RIAA seem to have come to an agreement in that matter).

Creston

seems like in the age of instant gratification, instant isnt fast enough.