Out of the Blue

Lately I've had some serious glitches with my gaming computer, and as a temporary network troubleshooting effort as much as anything, installed a couple of games on my work computer as a control test. As it turns out, this measure may be more than temporary, as this machine seems to not only clear up the problem I was addressing, and plays everything I've tried so far flawlessly, in spite of this machine's use of Windows 2000 Professional, which Microsoft readily admits is not very well suited for game playing. Go fig.

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Re: Never had a problem with XP/2k...
Jan 13, 2003, 12:21
nin
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Re: Never had a problem with XP/2k... Jan 13, 2003, 12:21
Jan 13, 2003, 12:21
nin
 
2k/XP being bad at games is one of those urban myths like cells phones and gas stations... everyone tells you its a bad idea but no ones' ever really blown up from it.

Um...that's not exactly a myth...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/12/05/gas.pump.fires/index.html

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Never had a problem with XP/2k...
Jan 13, 2003, 11:43
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Never had a problem with XP/2k... Jan 13, 2003, 11:43
Jan 13, 2003, 11:43
 

Just wanted to say I've _never_ had a problem gaming on XP or 2k. In fact, I've been able to run programs that I was never able to get running on 9x (the DOS XCOM, for example, runs fine on XP, but never got it to work in 9x).

2k/XP being bad at games is one of those urban myths like cells phones and gas stations... everyone tells you its a bad idea but no ones' ever really blown up from it.

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Re: Stayin' Alive
Jan 13, 2003, 08:39
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Re: Stayin' Alive Jan 13, 2003, 08:39
Jan 13, 2003, 08:39
 
I recently saw a documentary on the Gibb's. Very talented family, very nice people. Sad to see such a nice, talented guy die so young.

I'm assuming the documentary didn't cover the alcohol and drug abuse and the broken family life. On the other hand if 53 is young then whoopee I'm still young instead of the old dinosaur I normally feel around here.

Anvil
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No subject
Jan 13, 2003, 01:13
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No subject Jan 13, 2003, 01:13
Jan 13, 2003, 01:13
 
Windows 2000 is so named because it was intended to be the version that finally united the consumer level 9x series with the enterprise level NT series. Instead, at the last minute it was determined that consumer machines were not quite ready for Windows 2000 (which is really just NT with DirectX merged more cleanly with it than 4.0) as the average household systems really did not have the processor and memory needed to make 2000 appear adequately speedy.

So Microsoft held back the official merger of the two OSes and the death of the 9x line and hurridly pushed out a new update to the 9x series called Me. Me was not called 2000 because all the marketing and information released to date had the next NT under that moniker. Thus MS totally messed up their own naming convention.

I find that Win 2K runs all games designed for XP with no problems what so ever and is functionally very similar to XP with only some bells, whistles, annoying arse DRM, and an even more annoying copy protection implementation missing. Those missing items (and the outrageous pricing scheme) are the only reason I haven't moved to XP.

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Re: win2k for games
Jan 12, 2003, 23:25
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Re: win2k for games Jan 12, 2003, 23:25
Jan 12, 2003, 23:25
 
Maybe I'm dreaming, but when Win2k first came out IRC it was hyped as a gaming platform but there were scores of games that it wouldn't run.

I remember it as the opposite. Win2k was promoted as a business OS, 'bullet proof' haha windows.

I ran it until XP arrived. I've had zero problems with XP. My machine at work has been up since the day it was installed (except for reboots for security updates).

and let's face it obsolete in computers doesn't take long).

The way M$ has dropped support for older OS's is disappointing to me. It's still their product, they should do something for it. I won't bother with all the analogies.


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Re: win2k for games
Jan 12, 2003, 21:44
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Re: win2k for games Jan 12, 2003, 21:44
Jan 12, 2003, 21:44
 
who cares blue stick to the news or your site will go under soon

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Re: win2k for games
Jan 12, 2003, 21:31
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Re: win2k for games Jan 12, 2003, 21:31
Jan 12, 2003, 21:31
 
Maybe I'm dreaming, but when Win2k first came out IRC it was hyped as a gaming platform but there were scores of games that it wouldn't run. They released some pretty big fixes / service packs for that IIRC. I remember one list with over 100 games on it that "would now run under Win2k". It was embarrasing for MS (so what's new there). Give XP a couple of years and multiple service packs and I suspect it will be as good, or better, a gaming platform than Win2k. Xp is it's direct succesor, it wouldn't make sense for them to continue support for an obsolete OS forever (and let's face it obsolete in computers doesn't take long).

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Re: Win2K, XP, Who Cares? What GAMES?
Jan 12, 2003, 20:22
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Re: Win2K, XP, Who Cares? What GAMES? Jan 12, 2003, 20:22
Jan 12, 2003, 20:22
 
Bob James, you're selling original/new games for 6 dollars ?

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Re: Windoz Ex-Pee!
Jan 12, 2003, 18:30
nin
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Re: Windoz Ex-Pee! Jan 12, 2003, 18:30
Jan 12, 2003, 18:30
nin
 
WarPig[doh], thanks for the heads-up! I'm sure I'll eventually have to cross that bridge again (say, once something isn't supported under 2K and won't run), so I'll keep that in mind.

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Win2K, XP, Who Cares? What GAMES?
Jan 12, 2003, 17:51
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Win2K, XP, Who Cares? What GAMES? Jan 12, 2003, 17:51
Jan 12, 2003, 17:51
 
I don't really give a hoot what OS Blue is using to play games, I'd just like to hear about WHICH GAMES he's playing. I miss the little anecdotes about what games were being enjoyed in the Blue Tower.

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Re: Windoz Ex-Pee!
Jan 12, 2003, 17:44
WarPig
 
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Re: Windoz Ex-Pee! Jan 12, 2003, 17:44
Jan 12, 2003, 17:44
 WarPig
 
I've known at least 2 other people besides myself where XP just eats itself and refuses to load one day.

For what it's worth - I also had this problem (the system file would somehow go "missing or corrupted") numerous times, like once every other boot up, and so did a lot of other people. I figured a quick and dirty way around it but it was still a pain when it happened. Microsoft's solution at the time would be to tell you how to restore your system without ever addressing the cause - probably because they didn't know. I think it had something to do with the timing between the ram and hardrive during shutdown. Anyway, since I installed the service pack, I haven't had it happen once.

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win2k for games
Jan 12, 2003, 17:27
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win2k for games Jan 12, 2003, 17:27
Jan 12, 2003, 17:27
 
Microsoft saying that win2k is not for games, is purely marketing.

They know that Win2k is a very stable Windows platform, but that there is no recurring revenue in that OS. So, unless they push new technologies and quickly quit supporting Win2k, people will have no reason to change to another OS. Specifically XP, which is built around subscription content and media control.

So they simply turn out the marketing team to kill 2K on the desktop, and get it replaced with XP. Saying games are no good on Win2k is part of that.

(oh, and I've never had a problem with Win2k and games, or much else for that matter)


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Windoz Ex-Pee!
Jan 12, 2003, 16:27
nin
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Windoz Ex-Pee! Jan 12, 2003, 16:27
Jan 12, 2003, 16:27
nin
 
I've compared it with WinXP, and 2k just rules. Makes me weep to think that Microsoft is ditching 2K support in favor of eXtreme Pain in just 2 years...

I've been totally happy with 2K performance...I've known at least 2 other people besides myself where XP just eats itself and refuses to load one day. No thanks!

Oh, and you call it "eXtreme Pain", I just call it "Ex-Pee".

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Frodo's failure
Jan 12, 2003, 16:15
Quboid
 
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Frodo's failure Jan 12, 2003, 16:15
Jan 12, 2003, 16:15
 Quboid
 
I'm probably posting the bloody obvious here, but people do realise that photo and the close up aren't the same picture. Firstly, the ring is narrower on GWB's finger. Also, the ring is further from GWB's knuckles than in the close-up.

BTW, I use Win2000 for my games (and everything else) too. 98% of games run fine. The only ones I haven't got to run find only fail because they deliberately check the OS and fail if it's not Win9X.

Cheers,
Quboid

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2K and XP
Jan 12, 2003, 15:57
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2K and XP Jan 12, 2003, 15:57
Jan 12, 2003, 15:57
 
Having tried both, I have left XP on my main games playing machine. I like some of the features it has, and I turned off everything else. Personally, I took the short time to get things sorted just how I like it, and I have never had a problem with this OS, so it's here to stay.

MS really did screw up somewhat when they named the next business OS (and continuation of it's NT line) 'Windows 2000', having gone 95, 98, 98SE, most would assume that 2000 comes next. Still, not even billions of dollars can buy you common sense.

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Re: Stayin' Alive
Jan 12, 2003, 15:46
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Re: Stayin' Alive Jan 12, 2003, 15:46
Jan 12, 2003, 15:46
 
I recently saw a documentary on the Gibb's. Very talented family, very nice people. Sad to see such a nice, talented guy die so young.
The fact that guys like him kick off, and Dumbya continue to ruin the world, prooves there's no god.


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Rocking horse toilet
Jan 12, 2003, 14:37
WarPig
 
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Rocking horse toilet Jan 12, 2003, 14:37
Jan 12, 2003, 14:37
 WarPig
 
Assuming this isn't a joke, and I don't think it is, can anyone imagine even one of these things being sold? Where do you put it, over a hole in the backyard? How about those sturdy legs... and are those footpegs made of rebar? Please, someone explain this to me.

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Microsoft = Dumb Shits
Jan 12, 2003, 14:11
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Microsoft = Dumb Shits Jan 12, 2003, 14:11
Jan 12, 2003, 14:11
 
Windows 2000 Professional plays games better than any other OS I've ever had.

There are a few older games (that came out before Win2k was released) that I can't get to work under 2K, but every new game runs flawlessly.

I've compared it with WinXP, and 2k just rules.
Makes me weep to think that Microsoft is ditching 2K support in favor of eXtreme Pain in just 2 years...

Creston


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Frodos Failure
Jan 12, 2003, 14:07
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Frodos Failure Jan 12, 2003, 14:07
Jan 12, 2003, 14:07
 
I think a picture of No. Koreas Pyongyang would've been more appropriate but hey, whatever floats your Warhead...

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Troubles on Blues?
Jan 12, 2003, 13:57
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Troubles on Blues? Jan 12, 2003, 13:57
Jan 12, 2003, 13:57
 
Speaking of glitches... anyone else have problems with Blues yesterday? I wasn't able to see any of the news for the latest day yesterday... all I saw under the date header, in fact, was the "over a seventh of a billion" blurb at the bottom of the date, then the previous days header and all of that days news.

I thought it might be a browser glitch, but it happened with both IE and Mozilla so... I dunno. I expected to find a comment about it today, but haven't seen anyone else mention it yet.
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