On PC Halo

There's some Halo: Combat Evolved for PC news on GameSpot with a status report on the PC version of the Xbox shooter. The article recounts the history of this project as a PC/Mac project that was assimilated into an Xbox project upcoming Microsoft's acquisition of Bungie, how Gearbox happened to become involved in the PC port, some of the technical hurdles they have vied with, what parts of the "about 40% done" project they have completed, plans to add next-gen graphics card and internet support, and more.
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Re: Off the topic again...
Jan 1, 2003, 00:57
Re: Off the topic again... Jan 1, 2003, 00:57
Jan 1, 2003, 00:57
 
Woot, Woot..........First Halo Post of 2003

Bring on Halo PC/Mac .....


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Re: Off the topic again...
Dec 29, 2002, 21:03
Re: Off the topic again... Dec 29, 2002, 21:03
Dec 29, 2002, 21:03
 
The hardest part (in my opinion) is getting a motherboard, ram, and processor to all be compatible with each other.

I would agree with this.

While they might not be the cheapest place to get parts, I would recommend http://www.tccomputers.com I made some of my early purchases from them. You can pick an option where you select a processor and it will give you the motherboards and memory that will work with it. You can also select the order to be integrated. This means that they will assemble the CPU, mom, memory and test them. This gives you a warranty (short in length, but still a warranty) and removes the possibility of you damaging the CPU while installing it.

The other thing to do is read and read and read some more. Look up on the newsgroups to see if the motherboard you are looking to buy has any known problems.

Good luck.


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Re: Off the topic again...
Dec 29, 2002, 19:07
Re: Off the topic again... Dec 29, 2002, 19:07
Dec 29, 2002, 19:07
 
yeah... first start off by adding or replacing a few components in your computer... i would start off by replacing stuff like video cards, ram, or whatever is in a slot. reading manuals help a lot also in hooking up devices. and about the compatibility issue that nin is talking about... the best way imo to go about doing this is reading threads on tech forums, like over at www.anandtech.com and www.tomshardware.com.

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Re: Off the topic again...
Dec 29, 2002, 18:25
nin
Re: Off the topic again... Dec 29, 2002, 18:25
Dec 29, 2002, 18:25
nin
 
I'm trying to get a feeling on how hard it is to build your own computer,

It's not hard at all, once you get the hang of it. If you've never built one, I'd suggest locating a "mom and pop" type computer store that will build a machine to your requests and answer any questions you might have. As that computer gets older, you'll eventually want to add in a new drive or more ram (but remember, if you bought a system from someone, make sure you're not going to void any warranty by opening it up yourself).

Or, buy an old machine and take that thing apart. The power supply goes to the main board and the drives. Cables go from the board to the drives to transmit data. Your cd drive will (usually)have an extra cable to transmit redbook audio from the drive to your sound card. Ram has a couple of brackets to hold it in. Most boards have an agp slot for the video card, and your modem, etc will probably be pci.

The hardest part (in my opinion) is getting a motherboard, ram, and processor to all be compatible with each other. I generally try to buy all three of those from the same vendor, since if you get part A from one vendor and part B from another, and they don't work together, both vendors will probably tell you it's the other vendor's problem. Buying all three together eliminates the "pass the buck" from support.

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Off the topic again...
Dec 29, 2002, 12:33
Off the topic again... Dec 29, 2002, 12:33
Dec 29, 2002, 12:33
 
Sorry Blue, I keep posting stuff that has little or nothing to do with the post, but I need some help...

I'm a high school Senior, so I had to save up a while to get 2 grand for my new computer (my old p2 300 was starting to die). So I got a Dell. Whoops. The computer is not all that bad, its just that Dell's tech support and customer service are horrible! I mean, really, really bad. I'm trying to get a feeling on how hard it is to build your own computer, and I wanted to know the take of some gamers.

Thanks,
Mike

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PC vs Console
Dec 29, 2002, 06:11
PC vs Console Dec 29, 2002, 06:11
Dec 29, 2002, 06:11
 
I would much prefer to play games on a console than a PC
IF
* The graphical quality was on par with a PC (resolution)
* keyboard and mouse

Until consoles hit this stage, I will continue to use my PC and I there will be no console owned in my household.

Hell even the SNES had a mouse!!

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No subject
Dec 28, 2002, 16:26
Z
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No subject Dec 28, 2002, 16:26
Dec 28, 2002, 16:26
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thats because their priorities are gamers first money second at least thats what im led to believe from reading what they say on their boards and whatnot.

and L i ddi read your last paragraph, yea you took a swing at ut2k3 but you still got the wrong idea from my post. thats all im getting at.

im done with this article. just same stuff said over and over again.

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Re: No subject
Dec 28, 2002, 15:15
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Dec 28, 2002, 15:15
 
ive never seen any of those way smaller companies like croteam or piranta-bytes sell out to their fans.

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Dec 28, 2002, 14:20
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Re: No subject Dec 28, 2002, 14:20
Dec 28, 2002, 14:20
 
Nobody owes anybody anything. These "promises" that game developers and game publishers make are not promises. They're advertising. More hype. Just because a game is announced, and hyped up, does not mean that the developers have suddenly entered into a contract with the general public stating that they have to come through with a game. Sure, Bungie "sold out," but they are a business first. You can't produce games like Myth forever without a solid financial backing. People who create games "by gamers, for gamers" are just selling you something else. It's always about money first, pleasing the "fans" second.

So don't criticize a game company just because they reneg on an announcement. All decisions are financial. Don't forget: developing games is their job.

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Re: No subject
Dec 28, 2002, 06:27
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Re: No subject Dec 28, 2002, 06:27
Dec 28, 2002, 06:27
 
You might want to read mine carefully too.
Especially the last paragraph.

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No subject
Dec 27, 2002, 22:56
Z
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No subject Dec 27, 2002, 22:56
Dec 27, 2002, 22:56
Z
 
LFACE you obviously didnt read my posts, I said I did not buy it just for ut2k3 and i said doing that would be a pretty stupid way to spend 500 bucks, jeeze read the posts man.

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Re: A bit off topic...
Dec 27, 2002, 22:32
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Re: A bit off topic... Dec 27, 2002, 22:32
Dec 27, 2002, 22:32
 
Good to hear... Where might one grab a copy of that alpha?

Mike

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Re: A bit off topic...
Dec 27, 2002, 18:52
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Re: A bit off topic... Dec 27, 2002, 18:52
Dec 27, 2002, 18:52
 
"And I found something on another site that said even a 9700 wouldnt be able to handle it. Is this true?"

i just got my radeon 9700 pro in the mail... i tried out the doom 3 alpha after i installed my drivers, and it ran at around 50 fps in most places. this is with an athlon xp 1700+ with 256 mb of ram. with the same setup with my old geforce 2 ultra, i could run it at around 20 fps. this was an ALPHA though, which means that the performance can only get better.

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Re: No subject
Dec 27, 2002, 05:27
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Re: No subject Dec 27, 2002, 05:27
Dec 27, 2002, 05:27
 
Bet you feel rather silly now having splashed out on a new card just for UT2003 which is basically quake 3 with some of the free mods available for it. Actually thats a lie - Quake 3 with some mods can be fun.

UT2003 plays well on even lower end cards like GF2. There is nothing in the game which needs a major video card - only thing in it thats fairly revolutionary is the karma engine and that has bugger all to do with video processing.

But yeah your right about it being time to upgrade from your GF2, cant fault you for that. I just used this as a cheap excuse to have a go at UT2003 which ive not done for a while

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No subject
Dec 27, 2002, 02:35
Z
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No subject Dec 27, 2002, 02:35
Dec 27, 2002, 02:35
Z
 
oh yea btw. i upgraded too, and one of the reasons was to see ut2k3 at its best but its also cause it was time to upgrade from the geforce 2. i seriously doubt anyone would buy a brand new 500 doller card for the purpose of one game alone...no offence if you did. thats the point im trying to make with doom 3 though.

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No subject
Dec 27, 2002, 02:26
Z
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No subject Dec 27, 2002, 02:26
Dec 27, 2002, 02:26
Z
 
yes, i know, but you misundestood me, or i didnt write it cleary. what i meant was no company would release a game, only working on the newest of cards (those being the geforce fx is it?) the ones with 256 mb of ram. all im saying is that they arent releasing a game and making only possible to run it on the newest of software, they'd have to be insane to do that. but then again they did release daikatania....

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3D cards
Dec 27, 2002, 01:16
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3D cards Dec 27, 2002, 01:16
Dec 27, 2002, 01:16
 
"no game company is stupid enough to release a game that will only work on brand spankin new 3d cards that come out in conjunction with the game, if they did that they would lose all their customers, i would never buy a new 3d card just to play on specific game,"


Somehow I don't think you're a very big majority though, Z. When UT2003 came out, and the 9700 was released, the forums were rife with people who had upgraded just to see the game run on the latest card.

Ofcourse, releasing a game that will ONLY work on the newest card out would be stupid, but it wouldn't surprise me to simply see ID say "GeforceFX recommended", and then to see tons of people upgrade because of it

Creston

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No subject
Dec 27, 2002, 00:16
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No subject Dec 27, 2002, 00:16
Dec 27, 2002, 00:16
 
Relax. I'm just giving people some shit.

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No subject
Dec 26, 2002, 23:42
Z
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No subject Dec 26, 2002, 23:42
Dec 26, 2002, 23:42
Z
 
a 9700 should run d3 just fine, no game company is stupid enough to release a game that will only work on brand spankin new 3d cards that come out in conjunction with the game, if they did that they would lose all their customers, i would never buy a new 3d card just to play on specific game, I have a gf4, but its for all my games, not for just one. yea i know what you mean about pc only, there are a few that are on their way out to look forward to. ww2rts looks very promising. i believe the url is www.ww2rts.com but i could bne wrong, made by a developer in russia i think it is. another is that game that looks like sudden strike on steroids, better graphics, 3d vehicles etc...anyways im done my rant

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A bit off topic...
Dec 26, 2002, 22:02
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A bit off topic... Dec 26, 2002, 22:02
Dec 26, 2002, 22:02
 
Unreal 2 is supposed to be out next month, right? How much later is Doom 3? And I found something on another site that said even a 9700 wouldnt be able to handle it. Is this true? I think these two games will make everyone forget about Halo... (provided we can run Doom 3)

It would be nice to have a developer who just develop for PC. ID has crossed over to consoles, and so has Epic, even Blizzard! I know its all about money, but christ people, when is enough enough! Yes, there are developers who just do PC, but one of them needs to step out and take charge, sit down and say "screw consoles, they're for kids". I look forward to the day when I can see "PC only" on a game box again.

Mike

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