does this mean that Eve online wont be published now?

Blue collar workers who steal on the job are called common pilfering theives...with White collar crime its "accounting irregularities"

Maybe its not so bad for Messier....French jails are pretty liberal I hear, you get to choose which wine to have with your meal.

Ouch!

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I always hated Vivendi. As an honest college student hoping to get a normal paying job out of college it loathes me that a corporation as big and greedy as Vivendi holds 40 percent of it's books in debt. France actually has a deeper hatred of Vivendi, stemming from its burgeoning red ink and high profile labels like Eminem. Trust me, we would all be happier to see Vivendi out of the gaming business.

As long as they don't fuck with Sierra, I'm happy.

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Maybe they'll dig up proof that BNETD didn't actually cost them any losses.

Jesus, is there anything they didn't do? This is getting absolutely out of hand. I say have them sell off Sierra (or hell, bring back Roberta and what's-his-name) and leave the US gaming scene alone! Everyone has a point in time when they realized they hated Vivendi and Sierra...mine was Babylon 5: Into the Fire...we'll never forget!

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"Now, we gave you a promise and we are bound by that promise and damn you for asking for it! And damn me for agreeing to it! And damn all of us to hell, because that is exactly where we're going! We talked about peace. You didn't want peace. We talked about cooperation. You didn't want cooperation. You want war! Is that it? You want a war? Well you've got a WAR!"
- John Sheridan, Babylon 5

Blue collar workers who steal on the job are called common pilfering theives...with White collar crime its "accounting irregularities"

Maybe its not so bad for Messier....French jails are pretty liberal I hear, you get to choose which wine to have with your meal.

not much more needed to be said.

Everyone has a point in time when they realized they hated Vivendi and Sierra...mine was Babylon 5: Into the Fire...we'll never forget!

I wonder, not knowing much about the complicated way in which IP works, what would happen to the B5:ITF source/etc if Vivendi/Sierra were to go under... Any chance of getting at it?

Of course now it's been so long that the game probably wouldn't seem terribly impressive. Just a thought though.

>>> I say have them sell off Sierra (or hell, bring back Roberta and what's-his-name) and leave the US gaming scene alone!

It was Roberta and Ken Williams, wasn't it? Back in the days when Sierra actually did their own software and didn't suck.

What ever happened to them? I can't image what it must be like to build a great company from the ground up, only to sell it and watch that great reputation get run into the ground.

The first pc games I ever played were Space Quest, Police Quest, and King's Quest. Pre VGA monitors. Tons of fun.

To #9:
Terribly impressive? Who cares! As long as it's fun!!!

To #11:
Yeah!~ My first games were those as well! I played them on an CGA monitor, and had to use the keypress combination to turn it from BLACK AND WHITE mode to 4 COLOR!! LOL

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Sounds fine with me. Vivendi's been nothing but a disaster.

Seems like Sierra's had nothing but bad luck with corporate masters since way back when they were under Cendant. Remember the Cendant / CUC merger? Turned out that Cendant cooked its books (i.e. "Accounting irregularities") which resulted in the biggest corporate scandal ever, until Enron came along.

About time that Sierra was freed from Vivendi. Then they can sink or swim on their own merits, rather than the scandals of some French crooks. Bah.

-Mad Jackson

Its kinda bad when folks who have no clue who Vivendi are and gotta read the comments to find out they own Sierra (which I didnt know had been bought up anyways) Where's the top notch reporting here??

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It was Roberta and Ken Williams...What ever happened to them?

They sold Sierra to Vivendi in 1996. Roberta's last game with Sierra was the eighth King's Quest game Mask of Eternity, following which she promptly decided to take some time off. Mask of Eternity proved to be a disappointing game, critcially and sales wise, due to a largely misdirected attempt to bring the Adventure Game genre into 3-D (the game had more melee than puzzle solving).

Ken left shortly after Sierra was sold to form WorldStream Communications.

Roberta still keeps up with the adventure game scene and reportedly still flirts with the idea of coming out of retirement, but has yet to do so (the latest interview I could find with her is dated 1999).

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What is it with all the "Sierra sucks since Vivendi bought it" posts?

Vivendi bought 30% of Havas Interactive, the parent of Sierra, in 1997 and purchase was completed in 1998.

Let's see, games that came out since then...
Half Life, Alien vs Predators, No One Lives Forever, Empire Earth, Tribes, Homeworld, Gabriel Knight 3, Arcanum, Caeasar 3, Ground Control...

So what the fuck is wrong with you people? I swear, PC gamers can be such a whiny little bunch.

Some are mad that the Adventure Game is dead.

Some are mad that Sierra dishes out perpetual rehashes of Half-Life (which is of course more a fault of Valve since they've clammed up).

Some are mad that Sierra/Dynamix botched Tribes 2 (especially if they suffered through the initial release at full price).

Some are mad that Sierra cancelled "game X" (Babylon 5, Half-Life for Dreamcast).

Really though ultimately people are mad that a beloved icon of their youth is now merely a software label entrenched in a corporate mess and that what was popular in their youth is gone (i.e., the Quest series of games). Sometimes people want to rebel against something.

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And sierra forced Papyrus to make nascar game after nascar game after nascar game after nascar game instead of other racing series that would have really been fun with papyrus' physics engine

What will happen to them? They are so successful that I doubt they'd have a hard time being snatched up. Or did I miss something?