i heard there were bugs with the Voodoo cards.

First of all i have enjoyed the Battlefield 1942 and UT 2k3 demos about the same.
what i wanna say is that MOHAA has ugly graphics. dont disagree with me yet, just go back and play it after playing battlefield or unreal tourny and you will see that it's weapon models are a lot worse than DOD. im not joking.
well i hope that they will fix the bugs with my radeon in the new patch (that nvidia thing at the beginning scares me and i think they will secretly not support ATI cards)fixes my problem were i cant see shit in any level besides for bombing run.

Well, both EBG and GS show 11/19/02 as the ship date:

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/product.asp?pf_id=217284
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=644809

Of course, all the |<3\/\/1 people should buy the CE version:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/product.asp?pf_id=225235
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=644966

At this point, I think it comes down to marketing. The game was supposed to ship much earlier, but then there was all the brouhaha over which game offered what (a.k.a. cutting out the multiplayer aspect) and it seemed like Unreal II got pushed back to make way for UT2K3. Now, it is just a matter of how much they want to add to the game, how close they want to release it to UT2K3, and how badly they want to make the fabled Christmas shopping season.

I would still bet on a late '02 release for the Christmas reason, but there has already been a mass exodus of titles to '03.

Able to give you the official "unofficial" dates at least :D,
Ray

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Hate to fly off subject here, but does anyone know when Unreal 2 (single player) is going to be released? This demo has got me really looking forward to it.

Is there a console command that does this?

Yup:
open 1.2.3.4

THANKS.

Devster

Thanks Ray. Appreciate it.

You can find the benchmarks in your UT2003\Benchmark folder. You should see two different sets of files to run; the "flyby" ones that are of just the level and the "botmatch" ones that are the levels with sounds and bots enabled. Once they are completed, they will either create or add to (if already created) two text files with your results. Also, you can look in the UT2003\Benchmark\Results folder for even more information.

Finally, you can view your in-game FPS (current and average) by entering the command "stat fps" in the console.

Hoping that helps,
Ray

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I've read some post where people are talking about a benchmark included in the demo. Does anyone know anything about this and if so how to use the benchmark. All help appreciated.

Is there a console command that does this?

Yup:

open 1.2.3.4
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Well, 'bout a year or so ago, I picked up Operation Flashpoint. That's the most fun and excitement I've ever had in MP. Before then it was mainly Quake1 TF, Action Quake2, and Half-Life mods, like CS and AHL.

It's fairly easy to make missions for opflash, so I made a few and still haven't tired of the game after all this time. I tried BF1942, which has some cool points, but flying an airplane without a joystick sucks. Also, it's strange, but I'll get hit by a tank mortar shell or a rocket and live. Other times I'll get hit by a single bullet and die! Also, 9 times out of 10, it seems I'll just die for no reason. I won't hear a bullet or anything. I think there must be severe lag issues that cause it, although I haven't noticed any lag insofar as movement goes.

UT2K3 seems ok, but it's just too much like Quake3 for me to enjoy. Opflash offers exactly what I want--slower, more methodical team-based action.

I tried Ghost Recon as well, but the interface is really lousy. You have to hunt around for an icon just to tell what weapon you're carrying, and it feels like you're floating around with a reticle in the air.

If BF1942 gets better with the lag issues, then it might be worth picking up. Really, once you've played games with vehicles in them, it's awfully hard, at least for me, to go back to enjoying small, claustrophobic enclosed levels with no vehicles.

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System\UT2003.exe unreal://1.2.3.4/
It'll connect directly to the server.

Thanks. Wow, that's really sucky/annoying for NAT'd users whose IP changes. We looked around the UI, but couldn't find an easy way to just enter the IP of a server you wanted to connect to. Nothing in the readme either.

Is there a console command that does this? It'd be quicker than checking a shortcut's properties, or building a "Run" command each time.

Devster

Give us a break will ya?!? Who gives a rats rear end if you like BF1942 better than UT2k3??? Many of of us have been waiting for UT2k3 because we LIKE the UT franchise. Has it changed? Yup! I think it has changed for the better. Reflecting a more modern gamin approach, look and feel. Don't like it? Too bad. Buy BF1942, which looks like MOHAA with vehicles to me. Or any other number of WWII military games out there. UT2k3 is a FPS. Get it? Not a mixed up FPS with strategy and Role playing thrown into the mix. I'll take UT2k3 anyday over BF1942, but that is just my humble opinion.

Does the demo contain the final bot AI? I was fooling around with it a bit yesterday and bots, at least the ones on my team, are really...er...stupid. When multi-tasking, they failed miserably. Even when I had all of them working on one aspect (get the flag, protect the flag, etc.)

I understand that they are just bots and will never equal, at least hopefully not :D, the intelligence of the average player, but there was a big disparity between the bots on my team and the bots on the other team. Playing CTF, I would have to grab the flag, go hunt down the enemy with the flag (this was when the whole team was set to defense), and then proceed back to my base to cap the flag.

I noticed it most while they were defending, what I primarily had them do, but they pretty much failed at that completely and there were a number of times when they would position themselves in defensive areas around the flag room.....completely ignoring that the flag was already out of base.

They aren't complete idiots, but they do not seem as organized as the other team and I have to babysit them even more than I did in the first UT. Likewise, this problem becomes even more apparent as you increase the so-called skill level.

Wondering if they will delay to tweak or ship "as is,"
Ray

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Don't you mean the Kingdom Of Fags you fruitcake?

Ahh yes, the olds doom days when network cards were too expensive to buy, so you used serial cables! Oh those were fun, hours spend fiddleing away trying to get it work...lol. Ahh well yeah those were fun and all, but regardless of "class'" or not, it's still death match.

Half-Life, or CS, I could never get into either one of those games. Even though I have the boxs of CS and HL from when I was working at a computer store. Atleast I didn't have to pay for it

#38, well that's a toughy. With a cable modem I don't really notice any types of hickups or anything. It's run pretty nice and smooth since the day I got it in december.

This is prolly really stupid..but how would UT03 run on a Athlon900/3something PC-133 SDRAM/Voodoo 5500 AGP? I know, I need to upgrade but I'm extremely broke...

well I dont like it.. and I have grown up... about 20 years ago./

- Dr. Del
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if you are sorry for them, why did you use them?

Fuck UT2K3 Fuck BF1942 kindom hearts comes out in 2 days:D

sorry for f... words