Wait for the demo. The Epic team deserves at least that much respect.

Uhm. is it just me? or i believe the Karma engine IS in it. I know it's been stated that it isn't but if you look at any log of the game loading. it alwasy says "Karma Initializing" or something. Maybe it's just a "little" in there. I donno.

Tried installing UT2003 from a CD image...one of the textures didn't have a label. I'll wait for the official release.

Sega's 10six is the best game ever! It was like monkey sex!

I honestly thought my spelling was OK, considering english is my second language.

The use of the term n00b varies depending on your background and internet locals frequently visited, IMO n00b is just as outdated and stupid as newbie, but I did not feel the need to point that out to you, nor would I need to point out any spelling mistakes you may have made, because quite frankly that is a petty and childish thing to do.

Can someone please provide me with a link to Mark Rein saying this leak is a year old?

I did not refer to any model in particular when saying that they were not placeholders, some of them may be, but I doubt that the weapon and ammo models are.

As for the build version, the copy on my machine says build 906, I was comparing that to the build which anandtech has been benchmarking with, which is 848 or something. I have not seen any other references to current builds, that is why I said near to current.

I have to say that the general response to posts on this site is the worst and most hostile I've experienced, and I find it quite sad that so many people respond that way to others who just want to make themselves heard.

If the regular posters here resort to, insults, pillory and belittling then I will have nothing further to do with this forum, I only posted here because I respect Bluesnews and thought that the community would be more understanding. I see now that I was wrong.

Have a nice life, and for christs sake try to be objective and understanding once in a while.

Damn you should have the demo already. EB has it shipping... "(Pre-Order, Ships On 07/31/2002)"

ok this is my first post. Where is the leaked demo. I'm sick of waiting already!

Congratulations sir, YOU POST LIKE YOU'RE SIXTY YEARS OLD! Grow up less.

PS--fag!

The fact that you keep saying "n00b" indicates you are in fact a cretin. As for the assertion that the player models (and trees) are NOT placeholders - have you actually looked at them? They are clearly skeletal models.

Quit the very unfunny and oh-so-dated 'hacker' talk, learn to spell, and think before opening your mouth.

The fact that you keep saying "n00b" indicates you are in fact a cretin. As for the assertion that the player models (and trees) are NOT placeholders - have you actually looked at them? They are clearly skeletal models.

Quit the very unfunny and oh-so-dated 'hacker' talk, learn to spell, and think before opening your mouth.

I wasn't going to post in this forum. There was just to much bickering and I felt too superior to join the fray. BUT... after reading #59's post and how his friend used to love UT and now hates it because of the demo I think I will lower myself to his level, the level of perhaps a hotdog that has been half eaten and left to rot in the ass of a dead animal. If you make any decisions about the game based on the leaked pre-release version, you need to open your skull and make sure your brain is on. Sorry for ranting, but I cannot believe #59 and his friend's ignorance. They're a match made in heaven.

Whether your the person selling the crack or the one buying it, your still breaking the law.

Right back at you brother.

"game is a master piece even in the state that ive seen it."

My god what crappy level of quality are people expecting today? A MASTERPIECE? You must be on Crack.

waah the companys olny 20 people waah were busy a sshti waah the demoi was leeked by some badguy waahwaahwaah his postwas a big sob stfu nad fnish the goddamn game u noobs

Personally, I couldn't care less about a "pirated" demo, or pre-alpha leak, or whatever. I've been gaming for a long time, and have been a fan of the FPS genre since Id came out with Wolfenstein3D. If you have downloaded an unauthorized "pre-alpha" "demo", and are making decisions about the game in question based on playing an unauthorized "demo", then you are shortchanging yourself really. Do yourself a favor and wait for the authorized demo. Have faith that the creators of the game (especially a widely popular game like the UT franchise) will provide us with a suitable demo to give us a taste of what the real thing will be like. Then make your decision as to whether you want to buy the full version or not. As for camping, its been a hot debate since the beginning of this type of gaming. Personally, I hate being wasted by a camping sniper in any game. But, it is a viable, and established strategy of FPS gaming. Live with it. There are ways to hunt down and eliminate the camper, or ban them if you are running your own gaming server. As I refuse to pay $50 smackers a month for high-speed access (with little or no service to go along with it) all of my online gaming experience these days is in privately hosted lan parties. Some of the guys who play are very good at sniping and camping. We live with it, or give him a ton of crap about it, if it gets too bad. Or we organize our team strategy to take care of it. But, there is no point in bitching about in a forum like this. It had been debated over and over again. People are going to camp/snipe....for whatever reasons. Since the game allows for this...live with it, and deal with it. Nuff said.
Can't wait for UT2003 to hit the shelves! Playing SOFII and Gore right now...SOFII is very good (but not as good as hyped imho) and Gore, well its DOOM and SS, with bad sound. But entertaining, until UT2k3 that is!

"Congratulations, sir, YOU ARE RETARDED!", "Think it through, fag", "moron alert!"... simple minds need strong words.

And #53: "...if I post a full game for download, youre still the one who has to commit the actual crime by downloading it..." - no, it's you who would be committing the crime. Also, as Mark Rein said, Epic wants action against the people spreading the software, not the gamers who dl it and use it.

In real life warfare, sniping is all about the camping guys. I got nothing against players who camp with a sniper rifle. It's the ones who camp and snipe the spawnpoints that rub me the wrong way heheheh. Anyways, there's not a lot more satisfying than walking (that's walking or crouching) up to a sniper and telefragging them ^_^

#83, whoop whoop, moron alert! The last build I saw mentioned somewhere was I think 935-945 so this leaked build is way way old. Hopefully by now the majority have learned how old it is. Some like yourself just remain totally ignorant =P

Piracy aye? yar arrrr. Well I download a few things but like a lot of other people I only really download stuff that doesn't have a demo version. I always buy good games, otherwise companies wouldn't be able to make more good games heheh. Next week I'll have enough to pre-order NeverWinter Nights. I'm going to go out on a limb and forgoe the demo/warez download/test and buy that slick puppy straight away ^_^

Muzak I don't download at all. I don;t buy muzak either. I have my collection of CD's and really nowdays just about everything is just so homoginized it's like listening to the exact same song all day, every day. Just my opinion in the sad state of the muzak industry.

I love you, brother. Give me a hug.

PEACE

I wont lie ..... I love the leak, game is a master piece even in the state that ive seen it. After karma physics and final tweaks are put in (final demo) its going to be perfect, better than Q3 engine and game play of UT and then some. Out door environ ments are great, detail is great, what gameplay i have experianced....great.

I really cant wait and this comes from a persont hat used to play q3 a lot more than UT. UT has always had a -special- feeling that i dont get from quake...but it was still not played as much vs Q3 due to rail/rocket arena and well the wonderfull engine and all. But i think this game will convert me fully.