Counter-Strike 1.4 & Steam Beta

In an unprecedented move, Valve Software has apparently opened the beta test of Counter-Strike 1.4 and their new Steam content delivery system to the public. CS-Nation has instructions and downloads of the Steam client setup and the key generator that will allow you play C-S 1.4 and the latest versions of Half-Life, TeamFortress Classic and Day of Defeat after registration (and also try the new Tracker instant messaging system), while Planet Half-Life and Shacknews have additional mirrors. It is important to note that the Steam system is designed for broadband users only, and that this is a beta test rather than an official release.
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Re: DoD 2.0 review
Mar 7, 2002, 23:41
anon@24.114
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Re: DoD 2.0 review Mar 7, 2002, 23:41
Mar 7, 2002, 23:41
anon@24.114
 
DoD is like DM with WWII weapons. There is no concept of teamplay in that game.
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DoD 2.0 review
Mar 7, 2002, 22:31
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DoD 2.0 review Mar 7, 2002, 22:31
Mar 7, 2002, 22:31
 
hey you all...i wrote a quick review on DoD 2.0 at my new site and wanted to see if some people could give me some feedback on my review to get an audience opinion of my writing style...thanks for the comments
article is here http://www.fatmawyer.com/dod.html

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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 20:50
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 20:50
Mar 7, 2002, 20:50
 
Huh? Did I miss something? Has Valve been secretly billing my credit card every month for "maintaining support" of HL? And here I thought that I just paid one time, about 3 years ago, and was still getting tons of goodies and freebies and updates. Silly me.

I think it's fairly obvious that copies of Half-Life that continue to be sold in fairly significant numbers (for a three year old game) aren't sold just because of the standalone game on the CD. Valve's effort to support their community and their game over the last three years (and counting) is a big factor to their bottom line, at least as far as selling copies of Half-Life and now Counter-Strike (soon Counter-Strike: Condition Zero) are concerned.

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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 19:35
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 19:35
Mar 7, 2002, 19:35
 
Valve ARE winning by making crazy monies off of "maintaining support" for their only released game Half-Life

Huh? Did I miss something? Has Valve been secretly billing my credit card every month for "maintaining support" of HL? And here I thought that I just paid one time, about 3 years ago, and was still getting tons of goodies and freebies and updates. Silly me.

Look.. Valve announced over a year ago that they're testing portions of the TF2 code by incorporating it into patches that they're putting out for HL. The new netcode, the voice comm, and this streaming stuff are all things that they're testing out for TF2. What that means hopefully is that when TF2 is released, it'll be a great game, and you won't have to download patches every other day for three months before it becomes playable.

Why are these idiots complaining anyway? Do they own Valve stock? Have they already prepaid for their copy of TF2 at some shady software store? If not, they should just sit back,relax, enjoy the games that *are* out, and worry about TF2 when they see it on the shelves.




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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 19:22
anon@203.51
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 19:22
Mar 7, 2002, 19:22
anon@203.51
 
I wonder if this 'beta' release has anything to do with the impending release of Global Operations? I'm looking forward to CS 1.4 but we hear nothing from Valve about the it's release date but all of a sudden when the Global Operations demo is pending we get a CS beta?? Don't they have enough beta testers already??
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What do you have against Valve?
Mar 7, 2002, 18:56
anon@213.233
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What do you have against Valve? Mar 7, 2002, 18:56
Mar 7, 2002, 18:56
anon@213.233
 
you see alot of idiots nowadays.......
props to valve for supporting the comunity the way they do............half-life + starcraft = the best 100$ i ever spent
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Well....
Mar 7, 2002, 16:30
anon@213.105
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Well.... Mar 7, 2002, 16:30
Mar 7, 2002, 16:30
anon@213.105
 
Valve restarted Half-Life from scratch [basically] after having shown it to the press. They then continued on and released the 'Day One' OEM version showing the whole of the game they had [the first 20%]... this was so popular it was spread over the web illegally before Half-Life was later released.

My guess is that they thought TF2 was CRAP [which looking at the movies it WAS!] and they have started again on the quiet [ala Half-Life style]. If anyone has seen the first ever Half-Life screenshots it is just Quake 2 except REALLY bad looking... the game they released was amazing in comparison. Valve COULDN'T release TF2 as basically the Half-Life engine with a new twist... they need a new engine that will last yet another 3 years.

As for supporting the community... Half-Life doesn't 'need' anymore support. I think it is great that they are continuing support for it BUT they should release the next game and focus on improving that. They NEED to move on.

Also, there is no point working on CRAP MODs like DMC... I REALLY hated that.
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Re: realizations
Mar 7, 2002, 15:50
anon@209.26
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Re: realizations Mar 7, 2002, 15:50
Mar 7, 2002, 15:50
anon@209.26
 
if thay want to make a better game than half-life they will have to invest a minimum of the same time and surely more

Not really. When making the original they were really going in blind. They didn't know what was good and worked and what ideas didn't. They had some major competition (SiN mainly, tho there are others), so they had to be innovative to get ahead. Now everything has changed. They're established. They have seen the mods, the innovative work done for them. Now they just have to pick what they want to fiddle with. I'm sure the time they have spent has been almost 100% graphics and level design, if they are working on HL2 at all. (Which we know they are, official or not) They'll come along and announce HL2, say they've been working on it since the release of the first one and it will come out very shortly afterward. Duke Forever this ain't!

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realizations
Mar 7, 2002, 14:47
anon@199.243
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realizations Mar 7, 2002, 14:47
Mar 7, 2002, 14:47
anon@199.243
 
Seriously, do any of you really know what amount of time was invested in creating half-life, imagine it took them 2 years, if thay want to make a better game than half-life they will have to invest a minimum of the same time and surely more. When any of you will know what is needed to make a real engine, you will understand, till then understand that they may be develloping proprietary stuff and that takes time, just look at Unreal and Quake engines.
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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 14:01
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 14:01
Mar 7, 2002, 14:01
 
Valve cant win either way.

Valve ARE winning by making crazy monies off of "maintaining support" for their only released game Half-Life. Of course that level of support and the competence of the support can be argued (everybody's got an opinion, right?), the fact remains that they are making money and well in the black. And I am certain that Valve doesn't care what people think of their policies so long as it keeps making them money.

Valve have been and continue to be winning.

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No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 13:40
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No subject Mar 7, 2002, 13:40
Mar 7, 2002, 13:40
 
Good one, 23, good one.

"That's right, whine about the fact they are releasing more FREE STUFF that is the same quality as
most people's released games. Come on!"

This is ridiculous. You mean to tell me that there are people that can actually compare the quality of SOF to CS?

Hah. I laugh at you cretins. I can't believe that the ability ot jump was even implimented in CS when it is supposed to be a realistic mod. Not only that, but the allowance of cheats definitely is a sales curve they don't give a damn about (and they even have the gull to release STEAM).

You know what, though? It comes to no surprise that this was valvE's next move in the PC market of things. They're not even releasing info for TF 2 or HL 2 in spite of things, either. "It's like a never-ending circus," a Raven Software emplyee said, after he glanced at his e-mail's inbox and discovered a message sent to him asking for a cd-key for SOF . The same type of stupidity is rampant in valvE's offices.

They have the brass to release this version of CS, denoted a "beta," even though every release that has had cheat implimentations by players has always been a beta.

Look, if it doesn't work right, and it hinders gameplay, then it is a beta. There is no doubt about that in id, Raven, Epic, or any other company's offices that develop quality games that work well and play even better. This can be said for many of CS's releases. They have all been betas regardless of their pre-ordained state, they are still, later broken, by players after the release.

This is gullible. You actually question the integrity of other companies with that statement. This must be the average CS player at work: the inability to recognize professional work.

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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 10:59
anon@208.1
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 10:59
Mar 7, 2002, 10:59
anon@208.1
 
That's right, whine about the fact they are releasing more FREE STUFF that is the same quality as most people's released games. Come on!

I don't think there's anything valve has released in the last year that I really gave a damn about. HLTV? As if I want to watch other people play. Voice support? I know how to use Roger Wilco, and with RW I don't have to listen to morons I don't want to talk to in the first place. Deathmatch classic? I thought it was neat for about 4 minutes, and then I realized it made the patches that much bigger. TFC? Like no one would have made a TF mod for HL anyway.

Look, the thing is, everyone is too busy prostrating themselves before Valve to realize they haven't done anything really usefull for a long time. I mean, it's nice to have some really neat mods all on one game, but to be honest, they'd make 'em for another game if HL wasn't around. Creativity isn't limited to HL.

And let's not even talk about that Powerplay BS they were jumping up and down about over a year ago.
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No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 09:35
anon@65.92
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No subject Mar 7, 2002, 09:35
Mar 7, 2002, 09:35
anon@65.92
 
you don't need to download everything every time you want to play. right-click -> enable cache loading. go do something else for a couple minutes, come back and its done. hell you can even download the full hl single player game (without the cdmusic of course) in about 30 mins (at 120kbytes/s).
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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 08:53
anon@199.74
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 08:53
Mar 7, 2002, 08:53
anon@199.74
 
"Yeah I guess you have an 600+MB/s line for home use eh?

HAHAHAHA

Guess you need an OC-192 upgrade eh? "

actually, its not for home use, i have access to an OC-12 line because i am at college, a damn expensive private university that has a fast ethernet connection...

and yea i think i would need a OC-192 if we have to use this steam shit that downloads all that crap everytime.
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No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 08:52
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No subject Mar 7, 2002, 08:52
Mar 7, 2002, 08:52
 
It doesnt matter what Valve does...if they made TF2 a free release there would be people whining that the download is too big and that Valve has their head up their ass.

Whatever they do (and they have done a LOT for the community) you motherfuckers (and you know who you are)will bitch and whine regardless.

Valve cant win either way.

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Re: No subject
Mar 7, 2002, 08:42
anon@66.214
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Re: No subject Mar 7, 2002, 08:42
Mar 7, 2002, 08:42
anon@66.214
 
Yeah I guess you have an 600+MB/s line for home use eh?

HAHAHAHA

Guess you need an OC-192 upgrade eh?
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Re: I dont get it
Mar 7, 2002, 08:37
anon@195.99
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Re: I dont get it Mar 7, 2002, 08:37
Mar 7, 2002, 08:37
anon@195.99
 
WHAT THE H3LL IS STEAM!
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Yawwwnnnnn!
Mar 7, 2002, 08:35
anon@151.208
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Yawwwnnnnn! Mar 7, 2002, 08:35
Mar 7, 2002, 08:35
anon@151.208
 
Does anyone really care? HL was a great game and all the mods that the mod community made (and Valve gave away for free) were great. But the past is the past. I agree, its time for Valve to come out with something bigger than this crap. HL2 would be a great place to start!
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Re: I dont get it
Mar 7, 2002, 08:31
anon@68.1
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Re: I dont get it Mar 7, 2002, 08:31
Mar 7, 2002, 08:31
anon@68.1
 
Did this become the whine and cry to valve post?
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I dont get it
Mar 7, 2002, 08:18
anon@62.254
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I dont get it Mar 7, 2002, 08:18
Mar 7, 2002, 08:18
anon@62.254
 
when 1.4 comes out for real we wont have to use this completely nuts steam system do we?
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