More on Quake II Source Code

A post by id Software's John Carmack on Slashdot follows up on last night's release of the Quake II source code (story) with word of a few additional releases that can be expected soon. Here is the scoop:
Thanks for the kind comments, it helps me brace a bit for some of the really vile hate mail that is already starting to come in from the people worried about cheating.

Bill Heineman is preparing the mac source code for Q2 for a release.

We will see about getting the 3.21 changes we missed into an updated release.

I am also happy to say that another old game's code will be released under the GPL soon. We can always hope that it becomes a trend...

John Carmack
Update: In related news, id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead updated his .plan with a bit of information on the fees for private Quake II engine licensing, if a project based on the now public source code is not interested in releasing its own source code, as is required under the terms of the GNU GPL.
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Re: ya right
Dec 23, 2001, 02:09
anon@210.49
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Re: ya right Dec 23, 2001, 02:09
Dec 23, 2001, 02:09
anon@210.49
 
He was more interested in how the network code held up in the real world you dumbass. Get a clue!
At id they can easily test whether their OpenGL code works with most video card configs, but they can't test their network code on a bogged down internet. So rather than get millions of people bitching about the net code being flawed, they go for Macs first.
Get a clue. You're lucky to ever play any of id's games.
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ya right
Dec 23, 2001, 01:01
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ya right Dec 23, 2001, 01:01
Dec 23, 2001, 01:01
 
and did i not see carmack on stage showing off the doom3 tech demo running on a mac g4 with a geforce3 lolol.lets release a demo for a system with only 2 video cards and hope the feedback helps with 80+%[pc] of the market.

This comment was edited on Dec 23, 01:13.
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Re: releasing the source is great
Dec 23, 2001, 00:51
anon@203.47
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Re: releasing the source is great Dec 23, 2001, 00:51
Dec 23, 2001, 00:51
anon@203.47
 
id clearly explained why q3test was released for mac first. It was so they could release to a smaller market first, in order to not have to deal with the same error being reported by millions of people, instead of hundreds.
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lol glock
Dec 23, 2001, 00:02
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lol glock Dec 23, 2001, 00:02
Dec 23, 2001, 00:02
 
looks like 1100 servers still running q2.just you and 5 ppl playin tribes2 lamer.

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Re: Sh'up foo'!
Dec 22, 2001, 23:46
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Re: Sh'up foo'! Dec 22, 2001, 23:46
Dec 22, 2001, 23:46
 
Who plays Quake 2 anymore?

Dumb ass anon.

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releasing the source is great
Dec 22, 2001, 23:21
anon@65.167
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releasing the source is great Dec 22, 2001, 23:21
Dec 22, 2001, 23:21
anon@65.167
 
but all you carmack is god ppl are wrong[lol i'm still pissed that the q3 test was released for mac firswhat % of mac to pc sales did q3 get i'm sure it was better than 80%pc}armack is the bought dog of mac.
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:)
Dec 22, 2001, 22:54
anon@207.30
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:) Dec 22, 2001, 22:54
Dec 22, 2001, 22:54
anon@207.30
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Re: No subject
Dec 22, 2001, 22:40
anon@24.182
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Re: No subject Dec 22, 2001, 22:40
Dec 22, 2001, 22:40
anon@24.182
 
Really, I do enjoy this little christmas presents that JC give us. I'm not a coder, nor will I ever likely write a program that is useful.. But everyone benefits from the code releases.

You snot nosed punks need to realize.. you do NOT need source code for cheats, if you disagree then I have 3 letters for you: OGC, `nough said. If you have nothing better to do than make cheats for a 4yr old game, then you suck.

There are alot of possibilities for the source. Personally I would be interested to see if it would run at a decent speed on a recent pocketpc (any of them with the 206mhz cpu in them.. like the IPAQ's)
What about NPRQuake(2?).. the port with the funky blueprint/sketch display modes..
AND of course, the engine improvements.. There's already a tutorial out for loading targa files in the place of textures in a .wal ... and one to allow for true shadows using a stencil buffer, rather than the patchy POS shadows included in the game..
Maybe someone can figure out softGL colored lighting, for ppl w/o an opengl accel (laptops maybe?).. How about an MP3 player, or built-in voice chat? Text balloons with the chat text IN them, Quake3/Half-Life models/maps? What if someone ported QuakeC over to Quake2?

Open your fucking mind and let it explore!
As for the other old game that's being sourced.. Could it be SiN? It's a Q2 game, but with some different stuff, nothing big though... Hrm?

(BTW JC, if you are reading these forums.. Thanks for the early Xmas present!)
Now I'm off to read some code..
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No subject
Dec 22, 2001, 22:10
anon@24.190
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No subject Dec 22, 2001, 22:10
Dec 22, 2001, 22:10
anon@24.190
 
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One thing I notice about you lamers..
Dec 22, 2001, 20:55
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One thing I notice about you lamers.. Dec 22, 2001, 20:55
Dec 22, 2001, 20:55
 
Is that you all like to talk smack with ANON usernames and no email for people to reply to. It's real easy for you to dog someone elses hard work when you can hide behind the internet. Typical AOL lamers.

Now, why don't you go write some of the most popular games in the world you little snot nosed net-newbie whiners.

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Re: Shack?
Dec 22, 2001, 20:33
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Re: Shack? Dec 22, 2001, 20:33
Dec 22, 2001, 20:33
 
Not that any of this is really new with all of us.

Saddened by how angry we all get at times,
Ray

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Shack?
Dec 22, 2001, 20:27
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Shack? Dec 22, 2001, 20:27
Dec 22, 2001, 20:27
 
I had to check the logo at the top, for a second there I thought I was on the Shack.

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WHEEEEEEEEEE!
Dec 22, 2001, 19:22
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WHEEEEEEEEEE! Dec 22, 2001, 19:22
Dec 22, 2001, 19:22
 
Man, I HATE people who HATE.

:D,
Ray
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Re: ...
Dec 22, 2001, 19:18
anon@203.134
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Re: ... Dec 22, 2001, 19:18
Dec 22, 2001, 19:18
anon@203.134
 
I've had quite a lot of fun playing their last "technology demo". Apart from Doom2, I think it has the best FFA deathmatch gameplay.
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Re: ...
Dec 22, 2001, 19:03
anon@12.236
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Re: ... Dec 22, 2001, 19:03
Dec 22, 2001, 19:03
anon@12.236
 
DOOM 3? Oh right... id's latest technology demo.
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Re: ...
Dec 22, 2001, 18:59
anon@203.134
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Re: ... Dec 22, 2001, 18:59
Dec 22, 2001, 18:59
anon@203.134
 
Exactly, and by only posting at Slashdot, it shows he thinks he thinks it makes him look more intelligent.

Yes, I completely agree with you. JC should spend all day posting on bulletin boards, instead of working on Doom3. Maybe then he would be only half as great as Derek Smart is.
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Re: The real....
Dec 22, 2001, 18:52
anon@12.236
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Re: The real.... Dec 22, 2001, 18:52
Dec 22, 2001, 18:52
anon@12.236
 
"Besides, how the hell by your own reasoning could Carmack be announcing his brilliance by releasing source code."

Duh. It's like Martha Stewart releasing one of her famous recipies. It's not because she wants to see the food industry in a better place. She wants to share her brilliance and have it recognized by those who arent so brilliant.
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Re: The real....
Dec 22, 2001, 18:49
anon@12.236
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Re: The real.... Dec 22, 2001, 18:49
Dec 22, 2001, 18:49
anon@12.236
 
Um, you been to the store lately? There isnt anything else to buy. If there was a better selection of products you can bet your butt that RTCW would'nt even be close to making that list. It's Kingpin with a WW2 theme.
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Re: ...
Dec 22, 2001, 18:46
anon@12.236
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Re: ... Dec 22, 2001, 18:46
Dec 22, 2001, 18:46
anon@12.236
 
Exactly, and by only posting at Slashdot, it shows he thinks he is too good to post anywhere else.

He thinks it makes him look more intelligent.
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Re: ...
Dec 22, 2001, 18:03
indiv
 
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Re: ... Dec 22, 2001, 18:03
Dec 22, 2001, 18:03
 indiv
 
Is it just me, or does every conversation concerning headlines on this site always decay into childish arguments?

It's no wonder John Carmack doesn't post here...

That argument is flawed, since he posts on Slashdot.

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