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Just more off-topic crap.
"We from the South still value our confederate flag NOT because of the racist implications, but because it stands for a great injustice that was done against the entire US, but more close to home - to the South."
Speaking as a fellow Texan, I have to disagree with you on the underlying meaning of the Confederate flag. The South seceded over the issue of states' rights but that particular 'right' was the freedom to purchase and own slaves. When Lincoln became president, southerners assumed he would abolish slavery and voted to secede. While Lincoln despised slavery ("if slavery is not evil then nothing is evil") he was willing to allow the practice to remain in the southern states while banning it in the territories and new states if it meant keeping the south in the Union and avoiding war. Once the South left, the war was on and Lincoln abolished slavery a couple of years later.
I think to many, the Confederate flag represents the yearning to be free of an oppressive federal government. Most of the southerners who fought in the war probably felt this way. They weren't slave owners or even landholders. However, the people who voted to secede were. They were the rich plantation owners and farmers who didn't want to face the economic cost brought about by the demise of slavery. Their motive was pure greed and because of them, four years of slaughter and butchery commenced. This is hardly anything to honor today. I don't think the flag should be banned like the swastika in Germany but I would like to see it removed from flagpoles and buildings at government sites.
One can be proud of being an American but yet still acknowledge her sins and faults. Unlike some, I don't dwell on them or allow them to blind me to the many virtues.
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whee |
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Losers |
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Dec 5, 16:25 |
What's the point |
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Dec 8, 20:18 |
Re: What's the point |
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Dec 9, 12:42 |
Re: What's the point |
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Dec 9, 17:23 |
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Dec 9, 17:33 |
Re: What's the point |
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Dec 5, 16:34 |
Why they did it |
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Dec 5, 16:43 |
crazy goop |
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Dec 5, 17:15 |
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Dec 5, 17:25 |
Reply to #4, #5 and #7 |
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Dec 5, 17:37 |
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Dec 5, 17:44 |
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Dec 5, 17:49 |
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Dec 6, 07:32 |
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Dec 7, 01:50 |
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Dec 7, 10:36 |
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Dec 10, 14:31 |
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Dec 11, 17:59 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 11, 19:46 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 11, 20:49 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 11, 22:51 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 12, 12:43 |
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Dec 12, 15:28 |
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Dec 12, 15:39 |
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Dec 12, 17:01 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 12, 19:14 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 12, 19:34 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 12, 15:10 |
Re: Congratulations, you're a dumba$$ |
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Dec 7, 18:38 |
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Dec 5, 19:29 |
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Dec 5, 19:40 |
me again |
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Dec 5, 20:26 |
Re: me again |
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Dec 5, 21:34 |
Re: me again |
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Dec 6, 00:23 |
and in other news... |
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Dec 6, 04:22 |
Nazis are stupid |
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Dec 6, 07:53 |
is = id |
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Dec 6, 09:05 |
German Law |
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Dec 6, 10:26 |
Re: German Law |
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Dec 6, 11:53 |
Pack o' wank |
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Dec 6, 15:45 |
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Dec 6, 16:26 |
its not just a video game... |
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Dec 6, 18:55 |
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Dec 6, 19:42 |
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Dec 10, 11:48 |
A lil off the top |
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Dec 10, 17:19 |
Re: A lil off the top |
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Re: Pack o' wank |
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Dec 9, 17:46 |
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Dec 7, 09:23 |
In case you missed the point... |
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Dec 10, 11:49 |
Opinion of a German |
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Dec 10, 08:55 |
ahahha |
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Dec 10, 08:56 |
Left = Totalitarian |
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Dec 10, 17:28 |
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Dec 10, 19:03 |
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Dec 10, 19:19 |
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Dec 10, 12:03 |
right |
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Dec 11, 05:13 |
I'm sure that in Britain, at least... |
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Dec 11, 10:26 |
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Dec 11, 12:41 |
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Dec 11, 13:01 |
So if.... |
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Dec 11, 14:35 |
Ach! |
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Dec 11, 18:45 |
Castle wolfenstien, or is it just castle |
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Dec 11, 20:01 |
X| Hilfe... X| |
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Dec 11, 20:50 |
Re: X| Hilfe... X| |
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Dec 11, 22:23 |
Re: X| Hilfe... X| |
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