DarkCntry wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 16:09:

jacobvandy wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 11:40:

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 04:35:
Mario Kart 8, which is almost a decade old has never had a sale and is still going for $60.

Nintendo rarely ever drops the MSRP of one of their titles until the hardware that it is on is discontinued, and even then that goes to the tune of maybe 10%.

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/mario-kart-8-deluxe

Literally on sale right now, bro... $40. Nintendo's own eShop has had it that same price several times over the years, usually around the holidays or MAR10. So is your complaint really that they haven't had a permanent price reduction on their #1 best-selling game of the past decade (68+ million sold as of three months ago)?

None of those sales are Nintendo, it's separate retailers.

The last time this particular game was on sale in the eshop was around 3 years ago, when they released a new set of DLC and lasted for around 90 days.

Besides the point that these "sales" occur so infrequently and are so miniscule that by the time they roll around the chances of someone actually obtaining them for that price becomes so miniscule that it doesn't even register.

There are far more examples of Nintendo not changing the prices of their games than there are otherwise. Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Luigi's Mansion, etc., all still $60 through Nintendo.

Woot is also a third party discounter. They sometimes get product direct from the source, but more often buy distressed inventory, sometimes from a company going out of business. They exist largely to prevent price matching.

jacobvandy wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 11:40:

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 04:35:
Mario Kart 8, which is almost a decade old has never had a sale and is still going for $60.

Nintendo rarely ever drops the MSRP of one of their titles until the hardware that it is on is discontinued, and even then that goes to the tune of maybe 10%.

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/mario-kart-8-deluxe

Literally on sale right now, bro... $40. Nintendo's own eShop has had it that same price several times over the years, usually around the holidays or MAR10. So is your complaint really that they haven't had a permanent price reduction on their #1 best-selling game of the past decade (68+ million sold as of three months ago)?

None of those sales are Nintendo, it's separate retailers.

The last time this particular game was on sale in the eshop was around 3 years ago, when they released a new set of DLC and lasted for around 90 days.

Besides the point that these "sales" occur so infrequently and are so miniscule that by the time they roll around the chances of someone actually obtaining them for that price becomes so miniscule that it doesn't even register.

There are far more examples of Nintendo not changing the prices of their games than there are otherwise. Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Luigi's Mansion, etc., all still $60 through Nintendo.

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 04:35:
Mario Kart 8, which is almost a decade old has never had a sale and is still going for $60.

Nintendo rarely ever drops the MSRP of one of their titles until the hardware that it is on is discontinued, and even then that goes to the tune of maybe 10%.

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/mario-kart-8-deluxe

Literally on sale right now, bro... $40. Nintendo's own eShop has had it that same price several times over the years, usually around the holidays or MAR10. So is your complaint really that they haven't had a permanent price reduction on their #1 best-selling game of the past decade (68+ million sold as of three months ago)?

gsilver wrote on Jun 17, 2025, 08:48:
I really liked Borderlands 1 at the time, and had a good-enough time with 2, but it was just a couple of hours into The Pre-Sequel, which I only picked up on a deep-deep discount, that I had simply had enough, and haven't even opened 3, even with it getting added to my library as a freebie.

IMHO, The Pre-Sequel is the worst game in the series. I had an experience just like yours (although I really loved both 1 and 2), and when I tried the Pre-Sequel I just shut it down after 2 hours or so, uninstalled it and never returned to it. Don't let it color your entire experience from the series, give 3 a try. I enjoyed it (until it became repetitive of course, but that was only halfway through NG+ for me). I think it's also discounted quite a lot these days, so you should get your money's worth.

I really liked Borderlands 1 at the time, and had a good-enough time with 2, but it was just a couple of hours into The Pre-Sequel, which I only picked up on a deep-deep discount, that I had simply had enough, and haven't even opened 3, even with it getting added to my library as a freebie.

Borderlands 1 was kind of fun, but it really shone in coop for a laugh or two. The second one was okay but seemed to be all about loot pinnatas, and overdone humor that wasn't really funny at all. I didn't bother with the series after that. I doubt I would play this even if it were free.

jacobvandy wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 15:11:

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 14:50:
Nintendo also has a reputation for never discounting their first-party titles ever, regardless of how old the titles are. Nintendo's only positive is that you can always expect this to be the case.

They've been leaning hard against the standard industry practice of sending their software to the bargain bin as soon as sales drop off, yes, but "never discounting ever" is bullshit. It's just that people don't like their relatively modest cuts of 25-33%, even though retailers have been known to go as far as 50% or more.

Mario Kart 8, which is almost a decade old has never had a sale and is still going for $60.

Nintendo rarely ever drops the MSRP of one of their titles until the hardware that it is on is discontinued, and even then that goes to the tune of maybe 10%.

JTW wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 17:00:
Like everyone else, I loved1 and 2 and thought 3 was just uninspired. Not terrible, but not what 1 and 2 were. Still, they're some of my most played games, so I'll be back for 4. But it's a watershed title for me, like Starfield was: Whether they've fixed their issues or not will determine whether I buy early, buy later on sale, or skip them entirely going forward.

I hadn't played any of them but I really like both FPS and diablo so I was really excited to play 3 at some point a few years ago. I really didn't care for it, though and I'm not sure why. I found all the guns that dropped tedious to sift through but the actual gunplay seemed decent. Some of the legendary guns that did really weird things were interesting and visually it was pretty nice. There was something off about the whole thing though that just didn't grip me. But my god the characters were annoying. I'm not sure I've played a game with a more annoying story. That's why when I saw they were making a movie it seemed so weird since that was the one thing that I felt was truly awful in that game (the girl with the bunny ears though was genuinely funny.)

I suppose I can't say much since I just spent $70 for the Dune game with season pass preorder. The pass went up by $5 after release so that is a win of sorts. As for BL4, I picked up BL3 6months after release for 50% the release price. $45 or so when it came to Steam with the season pass stuff they charged the "loyal" fans who bought it on Epic for $90.

I'm waiting for it to be an Epic free game. Maybe Christmas 2026?

I'm only interested in the "Half the Cost" edition that comes a year after release.

It also comes with some additional freebies!

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo and Symbiote

Source: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1285190/Borderlands_4/

Like everyone else, I loved1 and 2 and thought 3 was just uninspired. Not terrible, but not what 1 and 2 were. Still, they're some of my most played games, so I'll be back for 4. But it's a watershed title for me, like Starfield was: Whether they've fixed their issues or not will determine whether I buy early, buy later on sale, or skip them entirely going forward.

Yeah..... no.

RogueSix wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 14:05:

Overon wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 13:57:
You would think they would give you a discount after the new borderlands EULA owns your soul.

$69.99 instead of $89.99 already includes a $20 discount. Be moar grateful ffs!!

I prostrate myself before the my lord and master Randy Pitchford and beg for his forgiveness.

I loved Borderlands 1 & 2. Did not enjoy the writing of 3.

Not going to blindly perorder 4 without waiting for some independent reviews.

A $70 game is not a casual/throwaway purchase for me.

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 14:50:
Nintendo also has a reputation for never discounting their first-party titles ever, regardless of how old the titles are. Nintendo's only positive is that you can always expect this to be the case.

They've been leaning hard against the standard industry practice of sending their software to the bargain bin as soon as sales drop off, yes, but "never discounting ever" is bullshit. It's just that people don't like their relatively modest cuts of 25-33%, even though retailers have been known to go as far as 50% or more.

How does $70 even represent being a real fan, Nah bRUH, real fans are dropping $4500 to see Shakira. Real fans go hard.

jacobvandy wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 14:35:

phinn wrote on Jun 16, 2025, 13:37:
Nintendo: we can go higher.

So they're charging $80 upfront for Mario Kart World, but at least they aren't trying to up-sell you on $100 or $130 editions for additional content... Or if you prefer direct comparison to another kart racer releasing this year, Sonic Racing Crossworlds will be $70, but they're asking $90 for the deluxe edition that includes a season pass with additional tracks to be drip-fed over a year following its launch (which combined with the base game's content will still fall short of the number of tracks they have in MKW, nevermind the latter's additional game modes including open-world free roam and battles). Obviously the sticker shock is real for a lot of folks, but I find Nintendo's strategy to be far more honest. And it's not even that every one of their games will carry the same pricetag -- the next major release is a 3D-platforming adventure with destructible terrain starring Donkey Kong, selling for $70, period.

Nintendo also has a reputation for never discounting their first-party titles ever, regardless of how old the titles are. Nintendo's only positive is that you can always expect this to be the case.

I'll be passing on it until reviews are in and more likely later on big discounts... Randy can suck it...