Zaibach wrote on Jun 8, 2025, 17:58:
Really wish they add a way to skip johnny's memories.. I'm at my fourth or fifth playthrough and stopped after I didn't want to go through the Alt Cunningham part.

I'm still looking forward that update and all my mods being bricked though.

I don't know if you mod or not, but I think that this mod will help with that: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/107

I have not attempted a complete playthrough yet of the game, nor have I modded it greatly, but my understanding is that while there isn't a mod that allows you to just always skip memory scenes....this mod gives you some controls you didn't have before. It might be worth checking out. It doesn't require any other mods or a separate installer, but it might tell you to install the latest Visual C++ Redistributable. ( https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe )

(Backup your save game before playing with mods)

Really wish they add a way to skip johnny's memories.. I'm at my fourth or fifth playthrough and stopped after I didn't want to go through the Alt Cunningham part.

I'm still looking forward that update and all my mods being bricked though.

Prez wrote on Jun 7, 2025, 06:22:

Quboid wrote on Jun 6, 2025, 21:59:
It's absolutely fair to criticise CDPR for shipping an unfinished game. That would have been a fair point. Still unfinished? Nah, it's been finished and great for years now.

Would have been and still is. That the game is excellent now doesn't erase history. I can recognize both, and I have a very long memory. But they at least helped me learn, once and for all, to never pre-order a game. Ever.

Absolutely, it doesn't erase what they did. The game now is excellent and calling it still unfinished is silly, but criticising them for the state they released the game in has no expiry date.

Exactly Prez.
With CDPR you practically have a guarantee of a carefully upgraded game even if they stumbled.
With Starfield, well ...

But people have been begging on their knees for a Steam page with a preorder, or at least a follow and a wishlist, button so they can play-pretend preordering.

I make it a point not to respond to trolls, but this is more for people to have context:

This is laughably rich coming from a guy who, by his own admission, pre-ordered Starfield. I'm sure he remembers that while he trolls, but is counting on the fact that you won't remember...

Quboid wrote on Jun 6, 2025, 21:59:
It's absolutely fair to criticise CDPR for shipping an unfinished game. That would have been a fair point. Still unfinished? Nah, it's been finished and great for years now.

Would have been and still is. That the game is excellent now doesn't erase history. I can recognize both, and I have a very long memory. But they at least helped me learn, once and for all, to never pre-order a game. Ever.

Silent Bob wrote on Jun 7, 2025, 00:06:
Pouting about "incomplete" games comes across as incredibly naive. There is no such thing as a finished game in modern game development. Games are abandoned when it is no longer economically viable to continue development versus working on something new. The only reason why we had "feature and content complete" games in the past was because there was no easy way to update them pre-internet.

Errr... nope, there are plenty of games released even nowadays that are in fact feature- and content-complete on release. The devs might release a series of v1.01, 1.02 and 1.03 bugfix patches but otherwise their games are "finished" and the majority of the team will have moved on to the next major project.

Muppets like CD Projekt deliberately choose to release their games in an unfinished state. Because they can. It has been proven time and again that everything is forgiven and forgotten. The original 'The Witcher' was a bugfest of next level proportions on release but CD Projekt made an Enhanced Edition and people had all forgotten about the state of the release version by then. They repeated this same story for the next two games, albeit Witcher 3 was arguably the least buggy one (they still released 20+ patches with thousands of fixes, NOT counting/including the next gen version).

Cyberpunk 2077 is when they finally pushed it too far, even for the unfinished game lovers. But looking at this thread, or the general sentiment on the internet, everything is long forgiven and forgotten. People will be tripping over each other to preorder The Witcher 4. It's guaranteed looking at the reaction to the recent tech demo, the content of which will not even be in the game by CD Projekt's own admission.
But people have been begging on their knees for a Steam page with a preorder, or at least a follow and a wishlist, button so they can play-pretend preordering.

Oh, well... clown world and all that . One daily (hourly?) confirmation after another. Just how it is...

NKD wrote on Jun 6, 2025, 22:24:
I went to a restaurant one time, I bought a delicious meal that I enjoyed at a good price. As I was leaving, the manager came up to me and said "You really seemed to enjoy your meal. Here's an extra portion for free, enjoy!" and handed me a to-go container with more of the delicious food.

I immediately sperg'd out and yelled at him. I told that no-good son-of-a-bitch that he should have put that extra portion on my plate in the first place and that he retroactively just ruined the whole meal for me. I then flipped over a table and punched a waiter.

That's what happens when you go to a W0kE restaurant that has waiters instead of waitresses.

More Nothing Burgers from some people again.

Dumping on CDPR back when the game came out was warranted. Now though? No not at all.

Ah, more angry gamer tears. So tasty

I enjoyed Cyberpubk 2077.

Someone telling me that it is/was not "feature and content complete " does not change that at all.

I must be dumb. (or I don't have a stick up my ass)

Silent Bob wrote on Jun 7, 2025, 00:06:
Pouting about "incomplete" games comes across as incredibly naive. There is no such thing as a finished game in modern game development. Games are abandoned when it is no longer economically viable to continue development versus working on something new. The only reason why we had "feature and content complete" games in the past was because there was no easy way to update them pre-internet.

With yesterday's release of Cyberpunk on the Switch 2, there's a significant incentive to continue updating the game. And they'll very likely release enhanced versions again for the next PlayStation and Xbox.

I've been working on the same software since 2009, and coding on it was actually started in 1998.
Software is never done

Pouting about "incomplete" games comes across as incredibly naive. There is no such thing as a finished game in modern game development. Games are abandoned when it is no longer economically viable to continue development versus working on something new. The only reason why we had "feature and content complete" games in the past was because there was no easy way to update them pre-internet.

With yesterday's release of Cyberpunk on the Switch 2, there's a significant incentive to continue updating the game. And they'll very likely release enhanced versions again for the next PlayStation and Xbox.

I went to a restaurant one time, I bought a delicious meal that I enjoyed at a good price. As I was leaving, the manager came up to me and said "You really seemed to enjoy your meal. Here's an extra portion for free, enjoy!" and handed me a to-go container with more of the delicious food.

I immediately sperg'd out and yelled at him. I told that no-good son-of-a-bitch that he should have put that extra portion on my plate in the first place and that he retroactively just ruined the whole meal for me. I then flipped over a table and punched a waiter.

Don't worry, the upcoming DLC is going to be the CP2077 Remaster. It's going to contain all the mod's required to fix their unfinished game..

It's absolutely fair to criticise CDPR for shipping an unfinished game. That would have been a fair point. Still unfinished? Nah, it's been finished and great for years now.

Roguesix youngish mindset:

"I never read any of Ian M Banks' Culture scifi novels because that silly bugger kept adding book after book, it was never a heavily discounted complete set !

Now he's safely dead I can buy them in a sale.

What ? Someone else writing sequels ?
Noooo, how could you want more of a good thing ??!!"

"Does having a hard drive mean that I'll have to worry about patching my game all the time"?

"No. Microsoft doesn't want lazy developers, and it will approve games for release on a console model -- meaning that a game isn't going to hit shelves until its 100% done. The hard drive is meant to be used for additions, or to help the games to move faster, not to fix problems with a finished product. Will this happen according to plan? We can only hope." - IGN Xbox FAQ 2001

Complaining about game updates and patches is fighting a battle that was lost 30 years ago.

Jim wrote on Jun 6, 2025, 19:27:
TIL: Companies that add free content to a game after launch SUCK, because they did not release a feature * complete game. Ok, thanks for that.

* ... feature- AND CONTENT-COMPLETE

You forgot a very important bit .