More on the WTC Disaster (Updated) [Sep 11, 2001, 8:30 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Of course this is not game related (we do not expect to be doing any further
game coverage today), but with the legit news sites being almost impossible to
access at times today, we've been getting loads of requests for more information
about what's been going on. Here is the latest as of about 9:00 PM EDT:
- President Bush addressed the nation 8:30 PM EDT. Here's a wire report: WASHINGTON (AP) - A grim-faced President Bush condemned ghastly attacks in Washington and New York on Tuesday and vowed to "find those responsible and bring them to justice." In the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Bush said the United States would retaliate against ``those behind these evil acts,'' and any country that harbors them.
To recap:
- In two separate attacks, hijacked planes struck both main towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan this morning, and both of the "twin towers" subsequently collapsed.
- A hijacked plane struck the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. and part of it has collapsed as well.
- A hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. Reports indicate the hijackers planned to crash this plane into Camp David in Maryland.
- 47 Story WTC building seven, one of the five (relatively) smaller buildings in the World Trade Center also later collapsed from ancillary damage.
- The White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building were all evacuated, all domestic flights in the US have been grounded through at least noon tomorrow.
- Other closings include most federal offices, the stock markets, the Disney theme parks, and the cancellation of today's Major League Baseball schedule. The President's speech announced that all federal agencies will be open for business tomorrow.
- Broadcasts out of Afghanistan showed evidence of missile attacks and antiaircraft fire, but what connection this has to today's apparent terrorist attacks in the US is not clear at this point. The US has denied involvement in these attacks.
- In the first hints of any sort at the scope of casualties, the New York City Fire Department has estimated that as many as half of the 400 firefighters dispatched to the scene are missing. CNN has said that 78 Police officers are missing. Also, the death toll from those on the four hijacked planes has been placed at 266. The number of dead and injured at the Pentagon has been widely reported as about 100. No estimates of the number of victims from the World Trade Center have been made.
- People throughout the United States have are being urged to donate blood to help offset significant shortages in New York and Washington. The American Red Cross in Greater New York or the American Red Cross are places to contact about donating blood or money, or both.
- Some news sites seem to be back online. Here are some links that have been more reliable: CNN.com; CNET.com; Yahoo; The New York Times; washingtonpost.com; usnews.com; ABCNEWS.com; FOXNews.com; MSNBC; and BBC News Online.
All of our thoughts go out to the victims of these attacks and their families and friends in what must be an incredibly difficult time.
. My comments were judgemental and generalizing and were specifically engineered to push emotional buttons and ask why people as a crowd are the way they are. I know I put myself on a pedastal and I hope "for the sake of future generations" that everyone who has time to read that post stones me off my pillar. We all need such a wake-up call. It is the ego that makes us "those evil lazy Americans". I hope I have not at all appeared stupid ("dull minded"- yeah, I know you already know what that means, but I don't want to be thought of as the brat throwing my words around) in this arguement. I want to try to see the whole arguement. I want to see why "evil" does "evil". I want to see why "good" stands up to judge them so quickly.
. Thank you so very much for your comments. I'm not smiling, but at the same time I feel better that my ranting has had its desired affect in awakening the Socrates in all of us and seriously forced us to ask "why" while at the same time getting the intellectuals to come out of their caves and make themselves known. There was no substance at all to that post. Every cliche'd phrase was meant to whip everyone who read it into a frenzied mob so that I could get very clear feedback on what everyone thinks about this incident, wedging everyone who e-mailed me into one of many extremes. I'm not sheltered. Of course Americans aren't so bent on materialism that they can't ocassionally look into themselves and pay homage to a higher conciousness. Not everyone is like that. That's the ugly end of the moral bell-curve. No, not everyone is so hardcore materialistic they can't bear the thought of socializing with people who don't own a car less than three years old.
. But while walking to work on the very day of the attack I witnessed two public beatings of Middle Eastern individuals (one about to be broken up by the police), and a crowd being given armed escort walking away from the local university far far from their respective building. I asked what was going on. One of the armed gentlemen blew me off while one the people being escorted said multiple bomb threats had been called-in to the Middle Eastern Studies program at our university. And the fist fight at the gas station I mentioned? Saw that too. It was only a one and a half mile walk to work. Don't you find it ironic that that the rednecks who run around beating up homosexuals in the streets turn out to be the biggest faggots of them all? Yet at the same time these people vote, and right now their voices are the loudest, screaming to send "them" all back to "sandy nigger-land". Don't even smile. I'm not.
. I don't want to romanticize death and dying, there's nothing funny about either to an atheist like myself. 'Cause in the end- we only get one shot, whether it be a shot at life or my shot to the stomach. I'm not asking for a medal or the Pulitzer- that was just part of the engineering in the post.
. Thank you all for your time, may they be brought to justice and in a court of law. Maybe the American way isn't so bad after all ne~? Thanks to the hundreds who responded both on this board and to my e-mail personally. Sure there were a few death threats; the way I wrote the post I expected that. I'm just proud of all those who said:
"Hey, not so fast, decent human beings walk the Earth, not quite so many as there were a few days ago but still- I'm one of them"
. Thank you all. I am proud to be an American where we have such freedom, and I'll take another bullet or three to keep that.
-Zombi Z
. Thank you so very much for your comments. I'm not smiling, but at the same time I feel better that my ranting has had its desired affect in awakening the Socrates in all of us and seriously forced us to ask "why" while at the same time getting the intellectuals to come out of their caves and make themselves known. There was no substance at all to that post. Every cliche'd phrase was meant to whip everyone who read it into a frenzied mob so that I could get very clear feedback on what everyone thinks about this incident, wedging everyone who e-mailed me into one of many extremes. I'm not sheltered. Of course Americans aren't so bent on materialism that they can't ocassionally look into themselves and pay homage to a higher conciousness. Not everyone is like that. That's the ugly end of the moral bell-curve. No, not everyone is so hardcore materialistic they can't bear the thought of socializing with people who don't own a car less than three years old.
. But while walking to work on the very day of the attack I witnessed two public beatings of Middle Eastern individuals (one about to be broken up by the police), and a crowd being given armed escort walking away from the local university far far from their respective building. I asked what was going on. One of the armed gentlemen blew me off while one the people being escorted said multiple bomb threats had been called-in to the Middle Eastern Studies program at our university. And the fist fight at the gas station I mentioned? Saw that too. It was only a one and a half mile walk to work. Don't you find it ironic that that the rednecks who run around beating up homosexuals in the streets turn out to be the biggest faggots of them all? Yet at the same time these people vote, and right now their voices are the loudest, screaming to send "them" all back to "sandy nigger-land". Don't even smile. I'm not.
. I don't want to romanticize death and dying, there's nothing funny about either to an atheist like myself. 'Cause in the end- we only get one shot, whether it be a shot at life or my shot to the stomach. I'm not asking for a medal or the Pulitzer- that was just part of the engineering in the post.
. Thank you all for your time, may they be brought to justice and in a court of law. Maybe the American way isn't so bad after all ne~? Thanks to the hundreds who responded both on this board and to my e-mail personally. Sure there were a few death threats; the way I wrote the post I expected that. I'm just proud of all those who said:
"Hey, not so fast, decent human beings walk the Earth, not quite so many as there were a few days ago but still- I'm one of them"
. Thank you all. I am proud to be an American where we have such freedom, and I'll take another bullet or three to keep that.
-Zombi Z
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Why this is and who we think we are (2)
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