More on the WTC Disaster (Updated) [Sep 11, 2001, 8:30 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Of course this is not game related (we do not expect to be doing any further
game coverage today), but with the legit news sites being almost impossible to
access at times today, we've been getting loads of requests for more information
about what's been going on. Here is the latest as of about 9:00 PM EDT:
- President Bush addressed the nation 8:30 PM EDT. Here's a wire report: WASHINGTON (AP) - A grim-faced President Bush condemned ghastly attacks in Washington and New York on Tuesday and vowed to "find those responsible and bring them to justice." In the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Bush said the United States would retaliate against ``those behind these evil acts,'' and any country that harbors them.
To recap:
- In two separate attacks, hijacked planes struck both main towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan this morning, and both of the "twin towers" subsequently collapsed.
- A hijacked plane struck the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. and part of it has collapsed as well.
- A hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. Reports indicate the hijackers planned to crash this plane into Camp David in Maryland.
- 47 Story WTC building seven, one of the five (relatively) smaller buildings in the World Trade Center also later collapsed from ancillary damage.
- The White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building were all evacuated, all domestic flights in the US have been grounded through at least noon tomorrow.
- Other closings include most federal offices, the stock markets, the Disney theme parks, and the cancellation of today's Major League Baseball schedule. The President's speech announced that all federal agencies will be open for business tomorrow.
- Broadcasts out of Afghanistan showed evidence of missile attacks and antiaircraft fire, but what connection this has to today's apparent terrorist attacks in the US is not clear at this point. The US has denied involvement in these attacks.
- In the first hints of any sort at the scope of casualties, the New York City Fire Department has estimated that as many as half of the 400 firefighters dispatched to the scene are missing. CNN has said that 78 Police officers are missing. Also, the death toll from those on the four hijacked planes has been placed at 266. The number of dead and injured at the Pentagon has been widely reported as about 100. No estimates of the number of victims from the World Trade Center have been made.
- People throughout the United States have are being urged to donate blood to help offset significant shortages in New York and Washington. The American Red Cross in Greater New York or the American Red Cross are places to contact about donating blood or money, or both.
- Some news sites seem to be back online. Here are some links that have been more reliable: CNN.com; CNET.com; Yahoo; The New York Times; washingtonpost.com; usnews.com; ABCNEWS.com; FOXNews.com; MSNBC; and BBC News Online.
All of our thoughts go out to the victims of these attacks and their families and friends in what must be an incredibly difficult time.
As I said, easily misunderstood.
People don't have the right to initiate force against others - I'm sorry if I gave this impression (and re-reading, I can see what you mean - I worded it badly). I wouldn't post something I can not back up, nor do I think it's justified as an opinion - again, I'm sorry if I gave that impression.
I don't see what you mean about the UN has no power apart from the governments behind it - I didn't (or did I give that impression) say that it is anything else. But they are hidding because they don't want to die - fair enough! Of course they shouldn't have put themselves in that position - that is not fair enough.
And yes, morality is in the realm of opinion - I'm surprised you suggest anything else. Virtually every meal I sit down to contains meat products that some people consider immoral - but in my opinion eating animals is OK.
And I "appease such barbarians"??? How many times did I state that I do not think this is right, in anticipation of people posting replies like you have. I accept that I didn't make it clear - SOME parts of this is too fuzzy for a straight yes/no or good/bad. But much of it is pure bad and wrong and I in no way think they had justification with what they did.
Cheers,
Xain
War doesn't decide who's right - just who's left.
People don't have the right to initiate force against others - I'm sorry if I gave this impression (and re-reading, I can see what you mean - I worded it badly). I wouldn't post something I can not back up, nor do I think it's justified as an opinion - again, I'm sorry if I gave that impression.
I don't see what you mean about the UN has no power apart from the governments behind it - I didn't (or did I give that impression) say that it is anything else. But they are hidding because they don't want to die - fair enough! Of course they shouldn't have put themselves in that position - that is not fair enough.
And yes, morality is in the realm of opinion - I'm surprised you suggest anything else. Virtually every meal I sit down to contains meat products that some people consider immoral - but in my opinion eating animals is OK.
And I "appease such barbarians"??? How many times did I state that I do not think this is right, in anticipation of people posting replies like you have. I accept that I didn't make it clear - SOME parts of this is too fuzzy for a straight yes/no or good/bad. But much of it is pure bad and wrong and I in no way think they had justification with what they did.
Cheers,
Xain
War doesn't decide who's right - just who's left.
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