More on the WTC Disaster (Updated) [Sep 11, 2001, 8:30 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Of course this is not game related (we do not expect to be doing any further
game coverage today), but with the legit news sites being almost impossible to
access at times today, we've been getting loads of requests for more information
about what's been going on. Here is the latest as of about 9:00 PM EDT:
- President Bush addressed the nation 8:30 PM EDT. Here's a wire report: WASHINGTON (AP) - A grim-faced President Bush condemned ghastly attacks in Washington and New York on Tuesday and vowed to "find those responsible and bring them to justice." In the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Bush said the United States would retaliate against ``those behind these evil acts,'' and any country that harbors them.
To recap:
- In two separate attacks, hijacked planes struck both main towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan this morning, and both of the "twin towers" subsequently collapsed.
- A hijacked plane struck the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. and part of it has collapsed as well.
- A hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. Reports indicate the hijackers planned to crash this plane into Camp David in Maryland.
- 47 Story WTC building seven, one of the five (relatively) smaller buildings in the World Trade Center also later collapsed from ancillary damage.
- The White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building were all evacuated, all domestic flights in the US have been grounded through at least noon tomorrow.
- Other closings include most federal offices, the stock markets, the Disney theme parks, and the cancellation of today's Major League Baseball schedule. The President's speech announced that all federal agencies will be open for business tomorrow.
- Broadcasts out of Afghanistan showed evidence of missile attacks and antiaircraft fire, but what connection this has to today's apparent terrorist attacks in the US is not clear at this point. The US has denied involvement in these attacks.
- In the first hints of any sort at the scope of casualties, the New York City Fire Department has estimated that as many as half of the 400 firefighters dispatched to the scene are missing. CNN has said that 78 Police officers are missing. Also, the death toll from those on the four hijacked planes has been placed at 266. The number of dead and injured at the Pentagon has been widely reported as about 100. No estimates of the number of victims from the World Trade Center have been made.
- People throughout the United States have are being urged to donate blood to help offset significant shortages in New York and Washington. The American Red Cross in Greater New York or the American Red Cross are places to contact about donating blood or money, or both.
- Some news sites seem to be back online. Here are some links that have been more reliable: CNN.com; CNET.com; Yahoo; The New York Times; washingtonpost.com; usnews.com; ABCNEWS.com; FOXNews.com; MSNBC; and BBC News Online.
All of our thoughts go out to the victims of these attacks and their families and friends in what must be an incredibly difficult time.
Me from the UK again..........
Again my heartfelt sympathies go out to anyone affected by this incredulous act of barbarism and stupidity.
post #180
A) It took the Abomb for them to stop. Experimentation was therefore justified.
B) Like it or lump it, Japanese culture is 'strange' to us westerners. Mainly cruel, brutal and dare I say it fanatical (still is, really).
C) The losses.... look at the losses elsewhere within that war theatre (world war II) then tell me a million people was a lot.
Other stuff...........
Elsewhere in this forum it has been suggested that the yanks 'saved' Europe in WWII... hmmmmm I really suggest that you read a little more history. No one can know what the outcome would have been.... however if the Germans would have gotten hold of Europe, I suggest the possibility that it would not have been only us Europeans under the thousand years of the reich.......
Elsewhere on this forum, it has been stated that 'I am sick of America being cast as the bad guy' (or some such) Join the club, apparently Britain is directly to blame for all the worlds ills (most of the time).
I have a resolution to all of this......... but...
A) it wont be easy to implement.
B) all you do good idiots won't agree.
An idea from the UK.
I pay loads of taxes, some countries pay more, some less.
Quite a proportion of those taxes get spent on criminals, prison service and justice system. We now have the technology of a tagging system for all people. So that a computer/satellite system knows everyones whereabouts in the UK (could easily be worldwide) Ofcourse the computer system would have to be secure and literally untamperable (as would the 6 smartchips placed strategically in the body at birth). In the case of crimes this would provide location information. So individuals can be traced to be within a certain place/building at a certain time etc etc etc. NOW..... the only people that would be against this (IMHO) would be criminals (or perhaps do gooders) surely......... I am completely for it. I am a relatively law abiding person therefore I have nothing to fear from this system. To add to the 'truth' of the system 100 people each year should be randomly picked as the 'keepers' of the system, acting as the 'moral' conscience if you will, paid hansomely for the inconvenience (and anti-bribery).
Tell me what crimes could/would be done if this system was in place. Trust usually necessitates face to face contact (esp in criminal circles) not just voice (over the phone) communications.
Anyway.......... I have rambled...... and here in the UK it's time for bed..........
Again my heartfelt sympathies go out to anyone affected by this incredulous act of barbarism and stupidity.
post #180
A) It took the Abomb for them to stop. Experimentation was therefore justified.
B) Like it or lump it, Japanese culture is 'strange' to us westerners. Mainly cruel, brutal and dare I say it fanatical (still is, really).
C) The losses.... look at the losses elsewhere within that war theatre (world war II) then tell me a million people was a lot.
Other stuff...........
Elsewhere in this forum it has been suggested that the yanks 'saved' Europe in WWII... hmmmmm I really suggest that you read a little more history. No one can know what the outcome would have been.... however if the Germans would have gotten hold of Europe, I suggest the possibility that it would not have been only us Europeans under the thousand years of the reich.......
Elsewhere on this forum, it has been stated that 'I am sick of America being cast as the bad guy' (or some such) Join the club, apparently Britain is directly to blame for all the worlds ills (most of the time).
I have a resolution to all of this......... but...
A) it wont be easy to implement.
B) all you do good idiots won't agree.
An idea from the UK.
I pay loads of taxes, some countries pay more, some less.
Quite a proportion of those taxes get spent on criminals, prison service and justice system. We now have the technology of a tagging system for all people. So that a computer/satellite system knows everyones whereabouts in the UK (could easily be worldwide) Ofcourse the computer system would have to be secure and literally untamperable (as would the 6 smartchips placed strategically in the body at birth). In the case of crimes this would provide location information. So individuals can be traced to be within a certain place/building at a certain time etc etc etc. NOW..... the only people that would be against this (IMHO) would be criminals (or perhaps do gooders) surely......... I am completely for it. I am a relatively law abiding person therefore I have nothing to fear from this system. To add to the 'truth' of the system 100 people each year should be randomly picked as the 'keepers' of the system, acting as the 'moral' conscience if you will, paid hansomely for the inconvenience (and anti-bribery).
Tell me what crimes could/would be done if this system was in place. Trust usually necessitates face to face contact (esp in criminal circles) not just voice (over the phone) communications.
Anyway.......... I have rambled...... and here in the UK it's time for bed..........
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