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More on the WTC Disaster (Updated)

Of course this is not game related (we do not expect to be doing any further game coverage today), but with the legit news sites being almost impossible to access at times today, we've been getting loads of requests for more information about what's been going on. Here is the latest as of about 9:00 PM EDT:

  • President Bush addressed the nation 8:30 PM EDT. Here's a wire report: WASHINGTON (AP) - A grim-faced President Bush condemned ghastly attacks in Washington and New York on Tuesday and vowed to "find those responsible and bring them to justice." In the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Bush said the United States would retaliate against ``those behind these evil acts,'' and any country that harbors them.

To recap:

  • In two separate attacks, hijacked planes struck both main towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan this morning, and both of the "twin towers" subsequently collapsed.
  • A hijacked plane struck the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. and part of it has collapsed as well.
  • A hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. Reports indicate the hijackers planned to crash this plane into Camp David in Maryland.
  • 47 Story WTC building seven, one of the five (relatively) smaller buildings in the World Trade Center also later collapsed from ancillary damage.
  • The White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building were all evacuated, all domestic flights in the US have been grounded through at least noon tomorrow.
  • Other closings include most federal offices, the stock markets, the Disney theme parks, and the cancellation of today's Major League Baseball schedule. The President's speech announced that all federal agencies will be open for business tomorrow.
  • Broadcasts out of Afghanistan showed evidence of missile attacks and antiaircraft fire, but what connection this has to today's apparent terrorist attacks in the US is not clear at this point. The US has denied involvement in these attacks.
  • In the first hints of any sort at the scope of casualties, the New York City Fire Department has estimated that as many as half of the 400 firefighters dispatched to the scene are missing. CNN has said that 78 Police officers are missing. Also, the death toll from those on the four hijacked planes has been placed at 266. The number of dead and injured at the Pentagon has been widely reported as about 100. No estimates of the number of victims from the World Trade Center have been made.
  • People throughout the United States have are being urged to donate blood to help offset significant shortages in New York and Washington. The American Red Cross in Greater New York or the American Red Cross are places to contact about donating blood or money, or both.
  • Some news sites seem to be back online. Here are some links that have been more reliable:;; Yahoo; The New York Times;;;;; MSNBC; and BBC News Online.

All of our thoughts go out to the victims of these attacks and their families and friends in what must be an incredibly difficult time.

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134. Re: Honestly Sep 11, 2001, 14:32 shul
Madrox, the sad truth is that revenge or no revenge, middle east or no middle east, this will not stop. not by saying "no revenge is neccessary" and not by revenging...

There is no solution.

shul is depressed

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133. War? Sep 11, 2001, 14:30 anon@64.1
An act of terrorism isn't defined as something on this grandiose of a scale. No my friends, this wasn't an act of terrorism. This was an act of war.  
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132. Monetary crash? Sep 11, 2001, 14:28 anon@217.5
This could very well be the beginning of a downturn and subsequent world wide monetary crash as predicted for so long. Though this was going to happen without such a tragic event, maybe this might accelerate the event.

But no matter what happens this is a tragedy, I give my deepest sympathy to those who are affected by it.
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131. campaign: gamers against terrorism Sep 11, 2001, 14:27 Smoerble
as it's not in bluesNews' news i would like to post it here, hopefully it's not too OT...
someone just started a campaign because of the tragedy in amerika.

it asks webmasters to close their website for at least 24 hours and to only leave the forums open...

for those webmasters who are not good in programming i mirrored the real simple version of index.html, they only have to replace the link to the forum:

why we (me personally) support this campaign ?
- i simply can't act as nothing has happened
- respect for the victims and their families
- but mostly i'm really afraid of how USA will act in return (we all know Bush is a dangerous person)
would be nice if you could post this
i hope none of your family or firends is affected !

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130. Honestly Sep 11, 2001, 14:25 Madrox
Who cares about two buildings that you probably never really thought about before and, had they not been attacked, never would? I hope everyone is taking a moment to regard the people who have lost their lives today. That's why this is a tragedy.

It seems like everywhere I turn, now that people are beginning to find out what happened and who's likely responsible, that people are screaming for blood. I can understand revenge; this whole thing made me angry. I just hope everyone with such thoughts realize the implications of what those actions could potentially get us into.

I honestly don't want a war. Do you?

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129. Worst of all times Sep 11, 2001, 14:23 anon@213.66
Global warming, economic depression, and now this.
Seems the world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Time to get a gun and move into the deep forests.
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128. ....... Sep 11, 2001, 14:11 anon@216.28
Never take life too seriously, because in the end, no one makes it out alive anyways.  
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127. Re: the real problem is Sep 11, 2001, 14:09 anon@24.129
The underlying core of christianity is to "spread the word". So long as we support israel this will always be inevitable. Maybe we should leave the middle east alone.  
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126. My condolences. Sep 11, 2001, 14:05 anon@213.112

No. Kill everyone who hijacks planes with 300 or so civilians and rams them into the centers of commerce where 50000 or so people work and the Pentagon. Oh wait, technically your right, we do 'dislike' them.

umm.. wouldn't the one that "hijacks planes with 300 or so civilians and rams them into the centers of commerce where 50000 or so people work and the Pentagon." allready *be* dead?

I just saw a man being interviewed in the streets of New York and he said (approximately):"...if they can do this, who knows what they can do".

I imagine that's exactly what the (apparent) terrorists was intending to accomplish by this action.

As a swede, I feel realively safe even if things turn grim and war erupts. But for I feel deep sadness for americans and America as a country this horrifying day.
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125. Re: the real problem is Sep 11, 2001, 14:02 anon@216.54
too much Muslim Extremism would be much more accurate.  
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124. Re: What's going on? Sep 11, 2001, 14:00 anon@66.27

An eye for a fingernail? You consider 15 thousand plus casualites a fingernail? What the f*ck are you on?

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123. the real problem is Sep 11, 2001, 13:59 anon@209.241
too much Christianity  
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122. One final comment Sep 11, 2001, 13:53 speedjack
Heard this from a preist on the radio this week when beeing asked to comment on the recent Irish problems...

'The worlds biggest problem is there's too mucch religion and not enough Christianity'.

I'm not alighned to any church - but the underlying message struck a chord.

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121. Patience is a virtue... Sep 11, 2001, 13:50 anon@138.49
Hi all,

I am horribly, horribly shocked by todays news, it is almost surreal. All I have to say is that patience is a virtue, I guess until more details clear up on everything we can only wait.

I hope that proper justice is brought to those responsible(justice, not blind retaliation). God help all those caught in this terrible, terrible tragedy.
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120. So where now ? Sep 11, 2001, 13:47 speedjack
Its ironic I'm posting this to a site where we all regularly play FPS's, War Sims etc and revel in the escapeism.

Bottom line is :- although I'm based miles away from the US (Scotland), I can honestly say everyone I know here is sicken shocked and deeply terrified by what they've seen today.

Our next big worry is 'whats to come'.

From our point of view the U.S. couldn't have a more unhinged and less 'global-centric' president with his finger on the button. We've just got to hope that if this is a non domestic attack, any retaliation will be measured and considered.

My heart goes out to those lost today... and those who may soon follow.

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119. Re: It's the end of the world as we know it. Sep 11, 2001, 13:47 anon@65.32
The City of God would probably refer to Jerusalem, the big city could refer to New York, but this quote is a little vague and could apply to lots of situations  
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118. Re: It's the end of the world as we know it. Sep 11, 2001, 13:44 anon@24.163
Don't take it so literally. Look at the other parts of the quote...  
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117. Re: It's the end of the world as we know it. Sep 11, 2001, 13:41 fractalgp
In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
How do you justify New York being "the City of God"?

fractalgp | |
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116. New York, New York Sep 11, 2001, 13:36 anon@132.156
Yesterday, the intro scene in Max Payne looked pretty cool. Today it looks like prophecy.  
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115. Re: After effects Sep 11, 2001, 13:35 KaRRiLLioN
Of course here's the really scary part--what if this were masterminded by domestic terrorists i.e. like Timothy McVeigh? That would truly spell the doom of our freedoms here in the US because you know the reaction would be to increase internal spying and clamping down upon us all. Just because of the Oklahoma city bombing it made it a hell of a lot more difficult to even buy fertilizer (I have a lot of relatives in North Dakota who farm and ranch).

If it is domestic terrorists, then I'll be even more upset about this situation than I already am. The enemy within is worse than the enemy without.

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