Out of the Blue

CNN reports on the impact of today's deadline that requires U.S. domestic air travelers to present REAL ID-compliant identification. I find it weird that this is surprising anyone, as the REAL ID act was passed in 2005 and the original deadline for new ID was 2008. But 20 years(!) after it was mandated, and 17 years after it was first supposed to take effect, this is still catching people off guard.

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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 13:17
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ZeroPike1 wrote on May 8, 2025, 05:17:
I live off mine. I have only a permanent residence card/status living here. I have to keep my US passport up to date and safely stored in my apartment for the rest of my life. Or until I forfeit my US citizenship. Which is on my to do list at some point.
I've had one for 15 years now. Basically got in in 2010 in order to have a second "photo" ID. Never been stamped.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 10:17
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Andor S2 is fabulous, love it, want more like it please! Talk about making lemonade out of lemons! Re-watched Rogue One afterwards and wow, what a terrible script that was, but remarkable for being a TPK adventure we didn't expect from Disney.

RealID? "Papers, please" wasn't supposed to be an aspiration for our society. The fact you need one to get into a Federal building is offensive..though if you're brought in on suspicion of being brown, I suppose it's not needed. The delays were because some states dug in their heels resisting the bureaucratic creep.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 05:17
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Mr. Tact wrote on May 7, 2025, 14:24:
Krazy Kat wrote on May 7, 2025, 13:35:
If you don't have real id, a passport works too.
This prompted me to wonder how many US citizens have passports. Apparently about half of them, more than I would have guessed.

I live off mine. I have only a permanent residence card/status living here. I have to keep my US passport up to date and safely stored in my apartment for the rest of my life. Or until I forfeit my US citizenship. Which is on my to do list at some point.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 04:42
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UttiniDaKilrJawa wrote on May 7, 2025, 12:49:
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Does that include AI? Cos we all know that we got maybe 40-50 years before SkynetGPT takes over right?
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 02:41
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Xeth Nyrrow wrote on May 7, 2025, 13:11:
They should have just made it so that anytime a new ID is requested, you could only get a Real ID. Instead it was left to individuals to guess what the government is doing (like taxes) which never ends well.
That's how my state did it, starting in 2018 all new ID renewals had to be Real ID. I was the last year (2017) before getting a new driver license meant Real ID. So when it expired last month I upgraded, but it hasn't arrived yet.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 8, 2025, 02:39
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Braden wrote on May 7, 2025, 12:57:
I finally got my Real ID last year. I doubt I'll ever need it for domestic travel since I never go anywhere, but doesn't hurt to be prepared anyway.
Been waiting for mine to come in the mail for a couple weeks now. I have to fly for work next month.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 21:26
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After Lucas proved that he no longer gave much of a shit about his own universe with the prequels, I'm pretty tepid about all things Star Wars. Disney is laughably awful, but Lucas had already started to ruin Star Wars himself, so how upset can I really be? I tried watching Andor, and while it was certainly the only above average thing that has been done with Star Wars in decades, I couldn't even muster the energy to watch the whole first season. I only watched the entirety of The Acolyte because I wanted to see just how awful it could get. It was a morbid curiosity akin to watching a street fight between 2 drunk, obnoxious jerks.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 21:22
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Jivaro wrote on May 7, 2025, 21:10:
I don't know that this is true, but I feel like Andor is targeted at an older audience because it takes place during a time that the older audiences are far more interested in, compared to say the prequels, on average. I am torn because I really want Star Wars to gtfo out of the Skywalker/Palpatine era, but at the same time this show is easily the most interesting and entertaining SW show I have watched...and I have really liked nearly all of the other stuff. Andor is just a whole level above it all.
Andor did for Star Wars what Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy did for Batman and superhero films—it made it feel real. Then I have to remind myself, "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." Oh, right. We're watching ancient history.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 21:10
Jivaro
 
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May 7, 2025, 21:10
 Jivaro
 
I don't know that this is true, but I feel like Andor is targeted at an older audience because it takes place during a time that the older audiences are far more interested in, compared to say the prequels, on average. I am torn because I really want Star Wars to gtfo out of the Skywalker/Palpatine era, but at the same time this show is easily the most interesting and entertaining SW show I have watched...and I have really liked nearly all of the other stuff. Andor is just a whole level above it all.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 19:12
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Kxmode wrote on May 7, 2025, 19:05:
Andor season 2 is incredible—easily on par with the first season, and in many ways, it surpasses it.

I'd love to hope that Disney would invest in more Star Wars fare of Andor's quality but I seriously doubt it.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 19:05
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Andor season 2 is incredible—easily on par with the first season, and in many ways, it surpasses it.

On the subject of Real ID, it's not only required for flights but also for entering any federal buildings.
The most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 19:03
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GA licenses includes REAL ID since 2012. I had to go get the name on my SSN fixed because of it, was a PITA
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May 7, 2025, 18:19
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Mr. Tact wrote on May 7, 2025, 16:25:
MeanJim wrote on May 7, 2025, 15:36:
If you have a driver's license, why would you not have gotten it by now? I've had a Real ID driver's license for over 10 years.
Several states REALLY dragged their feet. Not sure if they were incompetent or objected for some reason. So, in some cases it wasn't people being lazy, it was the Real ID licenses simply not being available.

WA offer(ed as of 2015) 3 different licenses. 1 has minimal proof of who you are, 1 Real ID, 1 a Border crossing card (and Real ID). They cost different amounts, but illegals could get the first one with just a bill in their name and address (not that it had to be their real name or address).
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 18:15
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MeanJim wrote on May 7, 2025, 15:36:
If you have a driver's license, why would you not have gotten it by now? I've had a Real ID driver's license for over 10 years. I'd pretty much forgotten that was a thing until I saw the panic over it today. I don't remember having to do anything special to get it. I remember when I renewed it, they just asked if I wanted it.

Some places have insane expiration dates, like AZ, where you might not think about it. My AZ drivers license from 2005 is still good... for 20 more years.
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May 7, 2025, 17:31
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May 7, 2025, 17:31
 
I was kinda hoping that they would pass the SAFE act a few weeks before the election and everyone would have to get a RealID to reregister to vote... that shit would have been funny as hell. ohwell, damn the luck. I got my RealID a few years ago.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 17:22
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Americans just don't give a shit until it's too late...and then they blame everybody else. It's our culture. The real way to roll something like this out is to give no notice, make it due in 24 hours (or something similarly ridiculous), and then just use scary words when you extend the deadline a bit...until it's done. You will get lots of "How dare they!" in social media...but that doesn't cause any blowback in terms of reality, so who cares. You can't "early bird gets the worm" in the US. Nobody cares. It's why I have been comparing 2000s+ America to 1980s-90s Russia. Same general "fuck that, fuck you, fuck whatever" attitude paired with "I blame everyone but myself" personalities.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 16:25
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MeanJim wrote on May 7, 2025, 15:36:
If you have a driver's license, why would you not have gotten it by now? I've had a Real ID driver's license for over 10 years.
Several states REALLY dragged their feet. Not sure if they were incompetent or objected for some reason. So, in some cases it wasn't people being lazy, it was the Real ID licenses simply not being available.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 15:47
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MeanJim wrote on May 7, 2025, 15:36:
If you have a driver's license, why would you not have gotten it by now? I've had a Real ID driver's license for over 10 years. I'd pretty much forgotten that was a thing until I saw the panic over it today. I don't remember having to do anything special to get it. I remember when I renewed it, they just asked if I wanted it.

We don't have to renew our licenses very often around here... and last time I did it I didn't have the birth certificate on hand. So.. I ended up with a non-REALID version instead.
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May 7, 2025, 15:36
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If you have a driver's license, why would you not have gotten it by now? I've had a Real ID driver's license for over 10 years. I'd pretty much forgotten that was a thing until I saw the panic over it today. I don't remember having to do anything special to get it. I remember when I renewed it, they just asked if I wanted it.
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Re: OotB: For REAL?
May 7, 2025, 14:27
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May 7, 2025, 14:27
 
Just renewed my license about a month ago, but didn’t get Real ID. If I’m going to be crossing any borders it will be illegally and paperwork free!

And thanks to flight simulators, I can fly myself anywhere I need to go too!!
I should be coding.
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