Brynjolf wrote on May 6, 2025, 15:25:
Yeah that headline was definitely not written by a smart person... "false myth" is like a double negation making it a truth... jeez

It's a direct quote from the dev studio CEO.

Riahderymnmaddog wrote on May 6, 2025, 17:03:
Personally I gave up in the beginning of the game because the control scheme was so god damn complicated. Been meaning to try it again with the 2.0 patch..

I really enjoyed my time with it, it was a solid experience then (when it launched) and they have made a lot of changes to make the game better/easier/more accessible. You can make lots of fun to play builds including one that does mana from health which comes back when you damage an enemy, infinite mana in other words. It was a solid game which is why I found the DEI changes to be just weird. It is like he was looking for something to blame for lack of success. Well, I don't really think that soulslikes are a big market for conservative gamers so making a change specifically for them at the cost alienating other parts of the community, just weird.

Riahderymnmaddog wrote on May 6, 2025, 17:03:
Personally I gave up in the beginning of the game because the control scheme was so god damn complicated.

skill issue

Jim wrote on May 6, 2025, 16:30:
not sure if you are sarcasming, the DEI change was in Feb. The latest change was 2.0 which added a bunch of non-related updates including free coop play. Regardless, the 32k peak player count is nothing to crow about, Clair Obscure beats it by 4.5x. Personally I enjoyed the game but IMO the failure was not due to DEI but the fact it was a soulslike. The soulslike genre is a really hard one to succeed in.

LOL, thanks I was able to look it up myself and confirm that they went from 1142 players prior to Version 1.7.73 removing DEI, to 1194, netting an addition 52 players. Take that Dragon Age!!!!

Personally I gave up in the beginning of the game because the control scheme was so god damn complicated. Been meaning to try it again with the 2.0 patch..

not sure if you are sarcasming, the DEI change was in Feb. The latest change was 2.0 which added a bunch of non-related updates including free coop play. Regardless, the 32k peak player count is nothing to crow about, Clair Obscure beats it by 4.5x. Personally I enjoyed the game but IMO the failure was not due to DEI but the fact it was a soulslike. The soulslike genre is a really hard one to succeed in.

Marek Tyminski has a solid point, LOTF had only about 400 players before removing all of the DEI, now it has about 4000k players, making it a great success that rivels only Counter Strike. What other reason then renaming "Body type A or B" could there possibly be?

Nah it won't bite him in the ass.. the modern audience never existed, ppl just realised all the DEI money infusions won't actually help them sell games

Yeah that headline was definitely not written by a smart person... "false myth" is like a double negation making it a truth... jeez

So he said his future games will have no DEI. Because the DEI in his prior game consisted of "Body type A or B" so there was drama in changing that to Male/Female. The whole thing seems incredibly stupid to me and a type of suck up to to current mentality for views/sales. I hope he knows his audience well, because this could end up biting him in the ass.

Is there such a thing as a true myth?