Microsoft Break-up Broken

Microsoft Won't Be Broken Up is an Associated Press story (thanks Adrenaline Vault) with the news that there will be no further follow-up to the anti-trust-related break up of Microsoft ordered last year (story) that was subsequently reversed by an appeals court (story) which vacated the breakup order "on remedies, remand the case for reconsideration of the remedial order." According the new report, "The Bush administration, reversing the Clinton White House legal strategy against Microsoft, told the software manufacturer Thursday it no longer seeks to have the company broken up. The department also said it will not pursue the bundling issues in its protracted antitrust suit against the software giant."
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Bush...
Sep 6, 2001, 11:43
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Bush... Sep 6, 2001, 11:43
Sep 6, 2001, 11:43
 
Is it any real surprise that this comes from a Republican administration?

Next, they'll turn on Babylon the Great...

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Lets all play nice.
Sep 6, 2001, 11:48
anon@63.207
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Lets all play nice. Sep 6, 2001, 11:48
Sep 6, 2001, 11:48
anon@63.207
 
yeah tell me about it, besides the fact that while they were slapping microsoft on the back 10 other huge corporations formed and created their own monopolys. I mean, the future where everything is owned by either microsoft, Aol/time warner and every other giant media company is not too far off.
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I thought...
Sep 6, 2001, 11:53
anon@217.81
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I thought... Sep 6, 2001, 11:53
Sep 6, 2001, 11:53
anon@217.81
 
there were only one group of "Untouchables"? Looks like we have the 21st century version.
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Disturbing...
Sep 6, 2001, 11:58
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Disturbing... Sep 6, 2001, 11:58
Sep 6, 2001, 11:58
 
Damn... I find this rather disturbing... How come they can do whatever friggin' thing they want? Are they bribing the Bush government?

Oh, well... I'm glad I've never payed them a dime, not directly atleast.

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I expected this
Sep 6, 2001, 12:01
anon@12.26
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I expected this Sep 6, 2001, 12:01
Sep 6, 2001, 12:01
anon@12.26
 
In the end, I did vote for GORE because of this. Frankly, Bush has shown he goes to the highest bidder now, and china is now getting free defense secrets.

MS wins, the people lose.
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Re: Bush...
Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
anon@65.89
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Re: Bush... Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
anon@65.89
 
Is it any real surprise that this comes from a Republican administration?

Nope. Republicans are pro-business. Democrats are pro-government. You tell me which is worse; before you answer, rememeber which it is that puts food on your table.

As a Republican, I'm glad to see it. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, but I think the government should keep its nose out of things it doesn't understand, namely the software and computer industry. These things have ways of taken care of themselves (i.e. the Open Source movement). Microsoft will fall on its own, in due time.
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finally...
Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
anon@128.194
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finally... Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
Sep 6, 2001, 12:02
anon@128.194
 
you guys might hate microsoft but theres no way the federal goverment should be able to tell them what they can and can't put into their own product. Antitrust cases were made to prevent one company from buying say all PC markets and then 5xing the price. They were NOT made to allow compedators to force an industry leader to remove features from their products. It's like ford filing a suit against Porshe for having faster and cooler looking cars.
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Gee...
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
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Gee... Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
 
...what a surprise.

cough...not...cough

I will try to avoid any one-sided comments and say that I do think it is important that we have regulations to make things fair, that there are adequate punishments for those that break these regulations, and it's important that we continuously watch both sides of the equation.

If we don't, if either side is left to run free, the imbalance can benefit the few and hurt the many.

On a more personal note, I would like to remind everybody that we have a planet we are still exploring, nobody can fully explain what life is, and we are but a speck in a GIGANTIC universe. There actually is more to life than money and personal conquest...

Shrugging,
Ray

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Re: I expected this
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
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Re: I expected this Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
 
In the end, I did vote for GORE because of this. Frankly, Bush has shown he goes to the highest bidder now, and china is now getting free defense secrets.

That is so much BS and doesn't even belong in this thread it is so unrelated and untrue (or at least unproven). I bet you were crying foul when people were saying that Slick Willy was doing what you are claiming of Bush...

As for the Macro$haft getting off scott free, that's business in America for you. I will be sticking strictly to my trusty copy of 98 for the forseeable future...
Lord BloodWolf
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Re: Bush...
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
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Re: Bush... Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
Sep 6, 2001, 12:11
 
Actually, both Democrats and Republicans are both pro government, but to different extents. Im just glad they decided to leave the free market alone and not get government involved where it shouldnt be.

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xp rules
Sep 6, 2001, 12:17
anon@128.194
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xp rules Sep 6, 2001, 12:17
Sep 6, 2001, 12:17
anon@128.194
 
oh and dont knock XP till you tried it. I was running 2k pro and XP is at least 2x faster. Far more stable than 98SE and nearly as fast. My roommmate thinks its the greatest thing since sliced bread. No one i know have had any problems with hardware or software either. Aside from it taking 1.49 gigs HD space i love it.
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This is good.
Sep 6, 2001, 12:21
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This is good. Sep 6, 2001, 12:21
Sep 6, 2001, 12:21
 
I'm sorry, but the computer world needs someone to pull technologies together. There needs to be a baseline for compatibility. MS has set this. Because of MS, it's easier to go to the store and buy something with reletive confidence that it will work with what you have at home. Those that want a choice, have other choices emerging... Linux perhaps the best example. As far as I'm concerned, what MS has done has made everyone's daily lives easier. I also believe that they will not be the king of the game forever. Kings are dethroned by the public over time (3 years ago... AMD who?). Once MS opposers come to understand what their home computing life would be like w/out MS, maybe they will understand better that overall MS's 'monopoly' is indeed a good thing in this case. Think back to the early computing days when everything was proprietary (TRS-80, TI-99a, etc) If you needed something, you went to the MANUFACTURER and found out if they had something that would work with your computer... if not, tough cookies, there was no option. Not only did MS make the home computing experience more viable, they made it easier. They made it so you didn't have to worry if you had anything but Windows installed. If you did, chances are "x" product would work for you. That might be a bad thing to *ix users who like tinkering with command line switches, config files, etc, but overall, it gives the home computing market a direction. Their being a monopoly isn't a fault of MS either. People get what they are looking for. If they product isn't good, it fails (Apple who? Marketshare huh?). This isn't saying Apple has failed, per se, but they are CERTAINLY not as popular as PC's.

I hope MS continues to improve the end user computing experience (as I believe this to be ONLY an end user issue... there is a plethora of business OS's to run on), until a better product that is as user friendly and easy to use becomes mainstream. That day will come. Probably soon. Maybe it will be Apple... Maybe it will be Linux... Maybe it's being developed right now behind the closed doors of some no-name shop...

Whatever it may be, I will embrace that as well.

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Boooo
Sep 6, 2001, 12:31
anon@4.3
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Boooo Sep 6, 2001, 12:31
Sep 6, 2001, 12:31
anon@4.3
 
Down with Government. All it does is tax us. Stupid taxes. I want McDonalds to own everything then I can have fries at the Best Buy while I'm buying Microsoft stuff. I want a Microsoft car too. I wish there wasn't any competition in the auto industry either. We could all have SUV's!!! Wouldn't that be great? In fact... Why does the government even exist? Phhhfffttt. We should leave it up to the conservatives to run everything. Us Right wingers know it all. Give us some Jesus and some money and the world becomes a perfect place. Oh... and kill minorities, or make 'em go somewhere else, they're icky.
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Re: Bush...
Sep 6, 2001, 12:44
anon@216.148
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Re: Bush... Sep 6, 2001, 12:44
Sep 6, 2001, 12:44
anon@216.148
 
True. Very true. There's maybe a dime's worth of difference between the 2 parties. Bureaucracy is not the solution, it's part of the problem!

http://www.self-gov.org
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http://www.cato.org
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Re: Boooo
Sep 6, 2001, 13:14
anon@65.89
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Re: Boooo Sep 6, 2001, 13:14
Sep 6, 2001, 13:14
anon@65.89
 
So, how long have been on the public dole? When you are actually PAYING taxes and not collecting them, I'm sure you'll be singing a different tune.
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Re: Boooo
Sep 6, 2001, 13:24
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Re: Boooo Sep 6, 2001, 13:24
Sep 6, 2001, 13:24
 
Ha ha, well said.
Is it just me or do these message boards contain a disproportionately high number of right wingers and libertarians? (judging by past discussions, too.) I guess FPS gaming and left-leaning ideology do not necessarily go hand in hand...

Proud to be a pinko,

apeman

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Re: This is good.
Sep 6, 2001, 13:42
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Re: This is good. Sep 6, 2001, 13:42
Sep 6, 2001, 13:42
 
Of course. Its impossible for MS to be better off without making someone else better off (free market stuff).


Heh #14 your my kind of person. But let me add FEE.ORG to the mix.

This comment was edited on Sep 6, 13:43.
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Re: This is good.
Sep 6, 2001, 13:54
anon@216.148
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Re: This is good. Sep 6, 2001, 13:54
Sep 6, 2001, 13:54
anon@216.148
 
Yes, most definitely. A couple more for good measure.....

http://www.fee.org
http://www.reason.org
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It's sad...
Sep 6, 2001, 14:12
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It's sad... Sep 6, 2001, 14:12
Sep 6, 2001, 14:12
 
But this is the state of politics in the 21st century. Where cutthroat, greedy-ass corporations that only care about profit margins and how large their bank accounts are take a walk while regular people like you and me get screwed over trivial things. Microsoft and their linked corporations had a virtual monopoly. Do NOT try to deny this. What's happening now? A government that once tried to do the right thing in getting them to break up is suddently their biggest fan, all because of a leader change.

This is what makes me sick about America these days. Thanks to this and many other incidents that protect businesses at the expense of the common citizen, it's no longer the United States of America. It's Corporate America, and we "elect" a new CEO every 4 years... we elect his staff (House and Senate) every 4 or 6 years out of a lineup of mostly very photogenic people with a winning smile, a silver tongue, and a vacuum between the ears... however, all of them must have one thing in common (and there are VERY few exceptions to this): they can NOT give one flying f*ck about the people that they supposedly represent. Rather, they SHOULD give a f*ck about the corporations that paid for their mud-slinging ads that get splashed all over the TV set every 10 minutes for a year straight, because if they don't, they'll never see office again.

Makes me re-affirm my anarchist beliefs every goddamn day...

"The devil is in all of you!" - Rob Zombie, "Demonoid Phenomenon"
"We can do this one of two ways. There's the hard way, which involves hours of discussion, tons of negotiation, half a dozen bribes, and no guarantee of success."
"What's the easy way?"
"Liberally placed high explosives."
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Greasy Palms
Sep 6, 2001, 14:17
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Greasy Palms Sep 6, 2001, 14:17
Sep 6, 2001, 14:17
 
Well I'll be damned, money really can you buy you everything. I wonder whose palms MS greased to get the previous ruling overturned? I'm sure President Bush is going to have a larger than normal campaign budget for the next Presidential election. Gee, I wonder where he will be getting all of his money?...

MS are the scum of the earth. I feel dirty and ashamed I make my living off of using their software. I know there are some very talented people working within the hallowed halls of Redmond, but MS represents everything that is bad with big business.


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