I still haven't played 2016 and newer. I last played DOOM was 3. I wonder if I would like these newer DOOM.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 22, 2025, 09:57:
Doom Eternal's and Doom (2016)'s soundtracks are both industrial with a heavy dose of doom metal mixed in for texture and flavor.

Yes you are right I'm wrong.

El Pit wrote on Apr 22, 2025, 08:32:

Overon wrote on Apr 22, 2025, 04:17:
Don't trash thrash metal. I don't think thrash metal is as simple and easy as you imply.

Thrash metal? Hardcore techno with guitars.

You are right not thrash metal.

Doom Eternal's and Doom (2016)'s soundtracks are both industrial with a heavy dose of doom metal mixed in for texture and flavor.

Overon wrote on Apr 22, 2025, 04:17:
Don't trash thrash metal. I don't think thrash metal is as simple and easy as you imply.

Thrash metal? Hardcore techno with guitars.

RogueSix wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 20:10:
So you guys accuse me of hating everything but you yourself get enraged over the silliest shit like who does the trash metal for a fucking simpleton DOOM game?!? wat?!?

Like, who the fuck even cares? They could let AI generate the trash metal or hire a high school band. Or let me do it. I could mash some strings, too, and you couldn't even tell a difference (OK, maybe a minor one).

Don't trash thrash metal. I don't think thrash metal is as simple and easy as you imply.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 18:31:

BicycleRepairMan wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 17:22:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:21:
Well, at least it has a good soundtrack.

Hopefully. I have not heard anything even remotely close to the genius of Mick Gordon in any of the trailers yet. Messing up their relationship with him is the biggest L id has taken in its history. Makes me question whether to get it. If Mick Gordon did the soundtrack it would be a 100% day one buy for me.

I did not know about that so I went looking for info and found Gordon's response here. I have no reason to disbelieve what he has written. Given he "has the receipts" as the kids say, I am far more inclined to believe his side of the story than what Marty Stratton posted on Reddit.

iD, Bethesda, and Zenimax fucked up in a colossal way and, instead of being men of ethics, they chose to act like spoiled toddlers.

That makes it very easy for me to never buy this game.

I didn't know about any of that either, or at least I didn't remember it. What a fucking circus. I know this might make me outdated but hashing this shit out in public instead of behind closed doors or in court is something I am not a fan of....so I was surprised how sympathetic I found myself to Gordon after reading both his and Stratton's accounts. I expected a whiny artist and a pretty concise but detailed rebuttal from the company, believably absolving them from whatever accusations were being made. (or at least attempting to) That is not what we have here.

Gordon's side is detailed, chronologically consistent, and "the receipts" seem pretty solid. His side of things includes his own mistakes, and he owns them. There are more than a couple of times where I stopped and said to myself, "Dude, you should have stopped working right there" or "you didn't really believe that, did you?". I would call that being "conveniently naive" in a narrative like this, but his behavior and attitudes are VERY consistent.

Stratton's Reddit post is absurd in its claims in so many places and lacks any receipts. TBH, I think it's a poor and obvious attempt at professional assassination, not just to deflect blame from himself. That Chad guy should be fucking embarrassed that he participated in all of this, but between the two posts, it seems obvious that Stratton is a conscious liar who was never dealing with Gordon in good faith at any time in the relationship. Pretty fucking disappointing from iD specifically, but plenty of blame to go around.

So you guys accuse me of hating everything but you yourself get enraged over the silliest shit like who does the trash metal for a fucking simpleton DOOM game?!? wat?!?

Like, who the fuck even cares? They could let AI generate the trash metal or hire a high school band. Or let me do it. I could mash some strings, too, and you couldn't even tell a difference (OK, maybe a minor one).

BicycleRepairMan wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 17:22:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:21:
Well, at least it has a good soundtrack.

Hopefully. I have not heard anything even remotely close to the genius of Mick Gordon in any of the trailers yet. Messing up their relationship with him is the biggest L id has taken in its history. Makes me question whether to get it. If Mick Gordon did the soundtrack it would be a 100% day one buy for me.

I did not know about that so I went looking for info and found Gordon's response here. I have no reason to disbelieve what he has written. Given he "has the receipts" as the kids say, I am far more inclined to believe his side of the story than what Marty Stratton posted on Reddit.

iD, Bethesda, and Zenimax fucked up in a colossal way and, instead of being men of ethics, they chose to act like spoiled toddlers.

That makes it very easy for me to never buy this game.

Argonius the 3rd wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 16:03:
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Ok that was pretty cool, gotta say

I liked the new Doom games and this going to be on Gamepass so why not and it's more melee than previous doom games. That's an interesting difference.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:21:
Well, at least it has a good soundtrack.

Hopefully. I have not heard anything even remotely close to the genius of Mick Gordon in any of the trailers yet. Messing up their relationship with him is the biggest L id has taken in its history. Makes me question whether to get it. If Mick Gordon did the soundtrack it would be a 100% day one buy for me.

Menu theme

phinn wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:19:
id Tech certainly remains capable of stunning visuals, but bored of this franchise personally. Maybe I’ll get it someday on sale like the others. Gonna hold my breath for a Quake 1 sequel.

When they rebooted Doom and I saw the video where they killed a guy and icons when flying out of the baddie like confetti I was not interested in the franchise anymore. Now it just looks like some sorta Warhammer 40k wanna be.

Braden wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:47:
The last two Doom games were mildly entertaining but I've no inclination to return to either of them after initial completion. This one is going to be a wait-for-sale for sure.

Xactly. Complete edition on sale for €15 or no buy.

Flo wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:23:
Doom Eternal was 100% perfect for me so I will be there day -2 even though it seems to take a step back from the ultra fast jet fighter gameplay 😛

yep yep. I am very much looking forward to this. Maybe it's the fairly straightforward gameplay, which I appreciate in shooters. Perhaps it's just nostalgia. /shrug Either way, so far I have enjoyed every Doom release, and this one looks to continue the tradition.

Flo wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:23:
Doom Eternal was 100% perfect for me so I will be there day -2 even though it seems to take a step back from the ultra fast jet fighter gameplay 😛

Did I write this?

Flo wrote on Apr 21, 2025, 11:23:
Doom Eternal was 100% perfect for me so I will be there day -2 even though it seems to take a step back from the ultra fast jet fighter gameplay 😛

Thankfully, it looks like it will not be like Doomkey Kong Eternal. I'll wait and watch some gameplay vids after release and hope it is very much like Doom 2016 and not like the "We will force you to jump around and use only the weapons we will give you ammo for if you do special kills" Doom Eternal.

The last two Doom games were mildly entertaining but I've no inclination to return to either of them after initial completion. This one is going to be a wait-for-sale for sure.

Doom Eternal was 100% perfect for me so I will be there day -2 even though it seems to take a step back from the ultra fast jet fighter gameplay 😛