Out of the Blue

Today is National Pet Day in the U.S., though I'm sure you're allowed to "celebrate" this anywhere. A good suggestion is to hug your pet, and you can give them an extra one for me if you don't mind (use your discretion if you have fish, venomous animals, etc.) MrsBlue is still in mourning over the passing of the Gunnar-man (not that I'm not), and our current townhouse lifestyle is not very suited to canines anyway, so a new dog isn't in the immediate cards. She's also deathly allergic to cats, so that isn't an option. But I'm a big animal lover, so I continue to revisit the idea of some sort of alternative pet. You may recall my previous discussions of lizards and the like. There are no easy answers here, and it may just be a Kobayashi Maru, but I still revisit the concept on occasion, and National Pet Day is one of them.

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Me!
Apr 13, 2025, 18:00
Ant
 
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Me! Apr 13, 2025, 18:00
Apr 13, 2025, 18:00
 Ant
 
Blue, I'm your pet ant!
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs
Apr 12, 2025, 14:12
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs Apr 12, 2025, 14:12
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ZeroPike1 wrote on Apr 12, 2025, 04:37:
Can not take your eyes fully off them.

Heh. I feel that way about most humans.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 12, 2025, 12:13
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting Apr 12, 2025, 12:13
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Kxmode wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 16:55:
I went back to school and completed Harvard's CS50 course! It took me through a whole range of languages, including C, and the challenge of managing memory manually, which gave me an appreciation for anyone genuinely proficient in the language. My final project took over four months to complete.

Great job! That is something I think about doing sometimes but then I end up napping instead.
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs
Apr 12, 2025, 04:37
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs Apr 12, 2025, 04:37
Apr 12, 2025, 04:37
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 18:58:
ZeroPike1 wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 13:22:
My god man, control your dogs. If I found my dog (back when I had them) going for another animal, I would be really, really pissed at it. I gave it nice dog food and treats for a reason, to knock that Hunter/predator shit off. Defending itself is one thing, but hunting or just being aggressive? not on my watch.

I agree that an individual should have control of their dog.

But food and/or treats by themselves aren't going to help a dog control their prey drive. That comes with actively working with the dog on behavior modification. For example, my coonhound loves to track pretty much everything and when she is on a track she bays. She also loves to bay when she's expressing herself and her opinions. She's loud as Hell for such a little dog (relative to the size of my Kangal). So, I've been training her to bay at half volume when inside. I've also trained her to break track and return, no matter how much she wants to continue tracking.

Like the other day, I mentioned my encounter with a black bear over the last weekend. After scaring it off, my hound took off like a rocket, following the scent. However, she did a hard, pinpoint 180 when I gave her a vocal recall command. She kept looking back over her shoulder, because her prey drive was working overtime, but her conditioning brought her right back to my side.

Aye, for as good of companions they can be, evolutionary traits are still a part of them. Can not take your eyes fully off them.
Rimmer: “Step up to Red Alert.”
Kryten: “Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb.”

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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 20:33
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Sepharo wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 18:38:
Simon Says wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 18:26:
Aren't hypoallergenic cats a thing?

Looking it up...

No such thing as 100% hypoallergenic apparently tho, but there are breeds that greatly diminish the unpleasantness, as long as MrsBlue doesn't go into life threatening reactions ( anaphylactic shock ) it might be an option?

Also, desensitization treatments ( <- link to article about this ) are a thing for cat allergies.

Here's an article about hypoallergenic cats.

GL

The new (scientifically-backed) "trick" is to feed the cat eggs from chickens that have been raised with cats to make it hypoallergenic.

SciShow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZ3vUiaASQ

So there is cat food that includes that antibody neutralizing the allergic agent in cats? Fascinating.

Well then, combining all 3 measures ( hypoallergenic cat fed with the special anti allergenic cat food while undergoing desensitization treatment ) would probably yield the best results.
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs
Apr 11, 2025, 18:58
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs Apr 11, 2025, 18:58
Apr 11, 2025, 18:58
 
ZeroPike1 wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 13:22:
My god man, control your dogs. If I found my dog (back when I had them) going for another animal, I would be really, really pissed at it. I gave it nice dog food and treats for a reason, to knock that Hunter/predator shit off. Defending itself is one thing, but hunting or just being aggressive? not on my watch.

I agree that an individual should have control of their dog.

But food and/or treats by themselves aren't going to help a dog control their prey drive. That comes with actively working with the dog on behavior modification. For example, my coonhound loves to track pretty much everything and when she is on a track she bays. She also loves to bay when she's expressing herself and her opinions. She's loud as Hell for such a little dog (relative to the size of my Kangal). So, I've been training her to bay at half volume when inside. I've also trained her to break track and return, no matter how much she wants to continue tracking.

Like the other day, I mentioned my encounter with a black bear over the last weekend. After scaring it off, my hound took off like a rocket, following the scent. However, she did a hard, pinpoint 180 when I gave her a vocal recall command. She kept looking back over her shoulder, because her prey drive was working overtime, but her conditioning brought her right back to my side.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau

Purveyor of cute, fuzzy, pink bunny slippers.
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 18:38
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting Apr 11, 2025, 18:38
Apr 11, 2025, 18:38
 
Simon Says wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 18:26:
Aren't hypoallergenic cats a thing?

Looking it up...

No such thing as 100% hypoallergenic apparently tho, but there are breeds that greatly diminish the unpleasantness, as long as MrsBlue doesn't go into life threatening reactions ( anaphylactic shock ) it might be an option?

Also, desensitization treatments ( <- link to article about this ) are a thing for cat allergies.

Here's an article about hypoallergenic cats.

GL

The new (scientifically-backed) "trick" is to feed the cat eggs from chickens that have been raised with cats to make it hypoallergenic.

SciShow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZ3vUiaASQ
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 18:26
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting Apr 11, 2025, 18:26
Apr 11, 2025, 18:26
 
Aren't hypoallergenic cats a thing?

Looking it up...

No such thing as 100% hypoallergenic apparently tho, but there are breeds that greatly diminish the unpleasantness, as long as MrsBlue doesn't go into life threatening reactions ( anaphylactic shock ) it might be an option?

Also, desensitization treatments ( <- link to article about this ) are a thing for cat allergies.

Here's an article about hypoallergenic cats.

GL
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 16:56
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Jim wrote on Apr 11, 2025, 14:34:
But I guess those days are over in the new make america shitty again world.

“It is in your hands, to make a better world for all who live in it.” - Nelson Mandela

That has always been the American way, the intent. History shows it repeatedly. You cannot erase that in a short timespan as the now. This (current status) too shall pass. Stronger together.

This comment was edited on Apr 11, 2025, 17:49.
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 16:55
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting Apr 11, 2025, 16:55
Apr 11, 2025, 16:55
 
I went back to school and completed Harvard's CS50 course! It took me through a whole range of languages, including C, and the challenge of managing memory manually, which gave me an appreciation for anyone genuinely proficient in the language. My final project took over four months to complete.
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 14:34
Jim
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We have had hundreds of new technologies and commercial products that have come directly out of the work nasa has done. But I guess those days are over in the new make america shitty again world.
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 13:54
Jivaro
 
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Apr 11, 2025, 13:54
 Jivaro
 
Just like not everybody who can make a baby should do so.....not everybody who can get a pet should do so. Unfortunately, our species isn't yet smart enough for those people to self-identify themselves.
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Re: OotB: Pet Dogs
Apr 11, 2025, 13:22
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In Australia, attacks by unrestrained dogs on little penguins in Tasmania may contribute to colony collapse, modelling suggests, while a study of animals taken to the Australia Zoo wildlife hospital found that mortality was highest after dog attacks

My god man, control your dogs. If I found my dog (back when I had them) going for another animal, I would be really, really pissed at it. I gave it nice dog food and treats for a reason, to knock that Hunter/predator shit off. Defending itself is one thing, but hunting or just being aggressive? not on my watch.
Rimmer: “Step up to Red Alert.”
Kryten: “Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb.”

ALSO: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
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Re: OotB: Heavy Petting
Apr 11, 2025, 12:36
El Pit
 
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 El Pit
 
NASA to be killed off so that the US depends on the goodwill of drugfuelled Musk. Trump is making America worse again.
...we yet realize that America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
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