Jivaro wrote on Feb 12, 2025, 17:36:
But hey, 77 million people voted for him and the rest didnt show up....so again...it's our own fucking fault.

Pretty much. Although I have to say it does provide for a simple comeback line for me these days. Already lost count of the number of times I have said something like, "I know at least 77 million people who are more stupid than that." Always makes me feel good to say it.

Trump is anti-anyone that isn't Trump.
Musk is anti-anyone that doesn't believe he knows all.

They are equal opportunity haters. To get on the hate list, you just have to get in their way. They are using all of our "how dare you" and our politicans to create an advesarial chaos that they can take advantage of for money and power.

Some supporters of them are legitimately okay with this. Some supporters are in denial that his is what is happening, asserting that there is a master plan that us non-Trump supporters just can't see. Other supporters, like a bunch of hispanic voters right about now, are realizing the truth of the situation.

But hey, 77 million people voted for him and the rest didnt show up....so again...it's our own fucking fault. I am glad people are protesting and the courts are trying to uphold the law, but this didn't happen overnight or with a lack of well laid-out debates. Maybe next time people will fucking vote instead of just posting feel good shit on Instagram.

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:18:

fujiJuice wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:16:

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:14:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

It's almost like that's what the article is about.

I was thinking more about book banning and Don't Say Gay laws.
The American conservative is ALLLL about policing thoughts and words. It's like a major plank in their platform.

Yeah but some progressives call him out for being sexist and racist so, you know, both sides.

Bhruic wrote on Feb 12, 2025, 05:38:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
Most of you guys don't even get that I'm a centrist opposed to both extremes of the political aisle. If you honestly believe the radical left isn't as bad as the radical right I own several bridges in NYC I'd love to sell you cheap.

A centrist? That's hilarious.

I'd actually agree that the radical left and right can be equally bad, but your problem is that you think stuff like trans people having rights or trying to eliminate racial biases is "radical". You complain about "woke" way too much for anyone to believe you know what radical really is.

Pretty much this. It's not just Cutter. A lot of Trump "fans" who claim to be centrist, or moderate or whatever, conveniently ignore the blatant violation of human rights that the administration has only begun to "administer". His plan to cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians is what exactly? Humanitarian?

Cutter somehow manages to be centrist if you average him out, but nearly all his positions are far right or far left. He has few actual moderate thoughts. He jumps right to "someone not exactly like me living my exact life should be dead."

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
Most of you guys don't even get that I'm a centrist opposed to both extremes of the political aisle. If you honestly believe the radical left isn't as bad as the radical right I own several bridges in NYC I'd love to sell you cheap.

A centrist? That's hilarious.

I'd actually agree that the radical left and right can be equally bad, but your problem is that you think stuff like trans people having rights or trying to eliminate racial biases is "radical". You complain about "woke" way too much for anyone to believe you know what radical really is.

Wait. Menendez going to prison proves Democrats are bad?

He went to prison. Where's Matt Gaetz?

Banning free expression, thought, literature, speech is something that was done only in totalitarian societies. Left or right, that's just propaganda to make you feel like you belong. There are no real left or right ideologies anymore. A government that burns books is not a government that cares about its people. Don't believe me, look at some of the recordings of book burnings that the Nazi party organized. That's another government that was built on making Germany for Germans again. Sound familiar?

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Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:14:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

Seriously. Who was it that just removed the T from LGBT on any government websites? Who was it that just recently issued an edict to remove the words Diversity, Equity or Inclusion from any government website? Who is it that just is trying to outlaw any teachers from mentioning racism? Or gay people? Who are the ones spamming libraries with book ban requests? Oh that's right, it's ALL the right wing. All of it.

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:

DarkCntry wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:36:
At worst, the politicians on the left are just status quo hardliners unwilling to rock a boat. At best, the ones in the right are about fully enriching themselves at the cost of the Average Joe...

Yeah, 'cause that would sure explain the 11 years Menendez got in prison, or Joe pardoning his son. Fuck man, it's almost comical the lengths the left will contort themselves into trying to prove they're not as bad as their counterparts on the right of the aisle. It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words. Most of you guys don't even get that I'm a centrist opposed to both extremes of the political aisle. If you honestly believe the radical left isn't as bad as the radical right I own several bridges in NYC I'd love to sell you cheap.

This is a joke, right? You seem to think you have a gotcha there, but you actually have nothing...

And you're not a centrist.

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:18:

fujiJuice wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:16:

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:14:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

It's almost like that's what the article is about.

I was thinking more about book banning and Don't Say Gay laws.
The American conservative is ALLLL about policing thoughts and words. It's like a major plank in their platform.

Well yeah definitely. I just mean it's kind of funny for him to suggest they don't when it's the whole point of the article on the news post.

Of course they have to police thoughts and words because it distracts their base while they pick their pockets. In fact that is most of what they do.

fujiJuice wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:16:

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:14:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

It's almost like that's what the article is about.

I was thinking more about book banning and Don't Say Gay laws.
The American conservative is ALLLL about policing thoughts and words. It's like a major plank in their platform.

Sepharo wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:14:

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

It's almost like that's what the article is about.

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 23:08:
It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words.

Oh really?

DarkCntry wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:36:
At worst, the politicians on the left are just status quo hardliners unwilling to rock a boat. At best, the ones in the right are about fully enriching themselves at the cost of the Average Joe...

Yeah, 'cause that would sure explain the 11 years Menendez got in prison, or Joe pardoning his son. Fuck man, it's almost comical the lengths the left will contort themselves into trying to prove they're not as bad as their counterparts on the right of the aisle. It's not the right who outlaw thoughts or words. Most of you guys don't even get that I'm a centrist opposed to both extremes of the political aisle. If you honestly believe the radical left isn't as bad as the radical right I own several bridges in NYC I'd love to sell you cheap.

so wut, I'll probably get hit by a waymo anyways.

Reddit called, it wants its thread back.

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:16:

Solemn-Philosopher wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:07:

Timmeh wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 20:18:
None of these leftist judges have the power to do what they are doing. THEY are the constitutional crisis.

as soon as these cases hit appeal they will be rejected.

leftist activist democrats are the real threat to the constitution and the democracy.

I dislike how many Americans judge things by left or right politics. How about we judge right or wrong according to the best logic and ethics instead simply siding with a political party by default?

Uh, that ship sailed when they got away with murdering JFK and Nixon got pardoned. The right-wing - anywhere - is always and only about do as I say and not as I do. The left, conversely, is all about Big Brother and thought-crime. We really need to get away from them both. In that context I've always like the old saying, 'Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.'

At worst, the politicians on the left are just status quo hardliners unwilling to rock a boat. At best, the ones in the right are about fully enriching themselves at the cost of the Average Joe...

Timmeh wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 20:18:
None of these leftist judges have the power to do what they are doing. THEY are the constitutional crisis.

as soon as these cases hit appeal they will be rejected.

leftist activist democrats are the real threat to the constitution and the democracy.

Freedom is slavery, war is peace, ignorance is strength.

Never read the constitution or the law didn't you, because you have it 1984 ass backwards.

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:16:
The left, conversely, is all about Big Brother and thought-crime.

How to say you are completely and utterly ignorant about "the left" without saying you are completely and utterly ignorant about "the left".

Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2025, 21:16:
The left, conversely, is all about Big Brother and thought-crime. We really need to get away from them both. In that context I've always like the old saying, 'Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.'

So the left is 'weak on crime', but anything we do to stem crime we're "big brother". Got it.

Also for those unaware accusing one or a group of being "thought police" is code word for "They call me out for saying racist, bigoted or sexist things and it's unfair! I should be able to say whatever I want with 0 consequences..."