Violence & Kids & Mods

Those who take issue with violence in gaming and its impact on young people have found a new issue to take up, as Game critics slam violent 'mods' on ZDNet (originally published in the Wall Street Journal Online) looks at the fact that some of those making game modifications are minors, who are not only exposed to violent imagery, but are involved in creating it (thanks Mirsky). Here is a bit from the article that offers quotes from both sides of the issue:
David Walsh, president of National Institute on Media and the Family, a nonpartisan organization that looks at the impact of entertainment on children, contends that underage mod makers are the moral equivalent of teenage pornographers. He thinks the game industry should apply the same rating system used on games to the mods themselves and restrict kids' access to Web sites where mods are posted.

The issue is starting to catch the attention of Congress. "This is a whole new problem," says Dan Gerstein, communications director for Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut. Lieberman is the author of a bill that would authorize the Federal Trade Commission to penalize companies that intentionally market adult-rated entertainment directly to children. But the legislation is finely tailored to address deceptive marketing rather than prohibit kids from making mods for mature-rated games, Gerstein says.

Game companies say they are essentially powerless to regulate mods since they're usually written by people in their homes and posted on Web sites. (The companies' games, on the other hand, usually can't be downloaded from the Web but instead must be purchased from retailers.) Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games Inc., the Raleigh, N.C., developer of Unreal Tournament, says people are getting upset about mods when the problem is that parents let their kids have the games. "If you don't have the game, the mod is worthless to you," he says.
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Re: Respect
Sep 4, 2001, 22:40
Re: Respect Sep 4, 2001, 22:40
Sep 4, 2001, 22:40
 
Yes but I think you are taking my point the wrong way, the U.S is like the little retarded kid who everybody makes fun of but the kid still thinks that everybody is there friend

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No subject
Sep 4, 2001, 16:00
anon@211.237
No subject Sep 4, 2001, 16:00
Sep 4, 2001, 16:00
anon@211.237
 
whoa...
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Re: Respect
Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
Re: Respect Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
 
Have you ever noticed how the rest of the world hates the U.S? Think about that for a moment.

Yes, I think that was my point. I know why too.

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this has turned into a huge flame war
Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
anon@211.237
this has turned into a huge flame war Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
Sep 4, 2001, 15:15
anon@211.237
 
LOCK IT. Waste of FUCKING bandwith.
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Re: Respect
Sep 4, 2001, 15:14
Re: Respect Sep 4, 2001, 15:14
Sep 4, 2001, 15:14
 
Have you ever noticed how the rest of the world hates the U.S? Think about that for a moment.

Yes, I think that was my point. I know why.

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Re: Respect
Sep 4, 2001, 15:01
Re: Respect Sep 4, 2001, 15:01
Sep 4, 2001, 15:01
 
Have you ever noticed how the rest of the world hates the U.S? Think about that for a moment.

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Respect
Sep 4, 2001, 14:14
Respect Sep 4, 2001, 14:14
Sep 4, 2001, 14:14
 
I am sick of all these uneducated europeans talking smack on the U.S.

Don't come to this forum and write non-sense like these because you don't have any clue about what's going on in the world

WTF??? As if Bluesnews is based in France or something we are running around posting on their servers on their internet(it's ours by the way we made it).

What the hell do you know about Europe: worst what do you even know about anything ???

what the f*ck do you know about america?? I would like to point out that our democracy has been around and working for us longer than any government for any country in europe. More than twice as long actually.

And, you have no idea what a fascist is.

That's what you would be if we hadn't rescued your whole f*cking continent from nazi germany. Then we gave you money to fix your infrastructure and set up your little wanna-be-like-us democracys. Then we save you from the communists with our nukes. So in conclusion... SHOW SOME F*CKING RESPECT!!

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Re: No subject
Sep 4, 2001, 12:36
Re: No subject Sep 4, 2001, 12:36
Sep 4, 2001, 12:36
 
/agree Mr. Zahn.

It would be very interesting to have a valid discussion without posts like the one i responded to below (sorry bout the double).

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Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 12:33
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 12:33
Sep 4, 2001, 12:33
 
How is it possible to be so ignorant and so dumb?
We just can't discuss with americans-braindeads, can we ??? You are just so full of yourself, selfish and completly ignorant. Don't come to this forum and write non-sense like these because you don't have any clue about what's going on in the world.

Just learn so stuff before you write anything.
What the hell do you know about Europe: worst what do you even know about anything ???
Don't come here and write stuff about politics, fascism, etc. because you don't have any clue.

And about freedom... what a joke: You Apesmericans THINK (I wonder how it is possible since you have no brain) you have freedom but you don't !! I lived in the States for a couple of years and I don't this YOUR freedom is what the definition of freedom should be. Just think about it:
You're supposed to live in a democratic country where you elect a president by democratic means (voting), but in the last case, you didn't... Federal court had the final decision about your president, meaning more fascist-republicains approving nonsense-fascist laws, thus electing George W (as for Walker Texas F^cker) Pricktree !!!

Thank you for that uninformed ignorant and nonsensical American flame post. Please try and form some sort of arguement or other comment of substance before resoponding to something, thanks. And, you have no idea what a fascist is.

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Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 12:32
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 12:32
Sep 4, 2001, 12:32
 
How is it possible to be so ignorant and so dumb?
We just can't discuss with americans-braindeads, can we ??? You are just so full of yourself, selfish and completly ignorant. Don't come to this forum and write non-sense like these because you don't have any clue about what's going on in the world.

Just learn so stuff before you write anything.
What the hell do you know about Europe: worst what do you even know about anything ???
Don't come here and write stuff about politics, fascism, etc. because you don't have any clue.

And about freedom... what a joke: You Apesmericans THINK (I wonder how it is possible since you have no brain) you have freedom but you don't !! I lived in the States for a couple of years and I don't this YOUR freedom is what the definition of freedom should be. Just think about it:
You're supposed to live in a democratic country where you elect a president by democratic means (voting), but in the last case, you didn't... Federal court had the final decision about your president, meaning more fascist-republicains approving nonsense-fascist laws, thus electing George W (as for Walker Texas F^cker) Pricktree !!!

Thank you for that uninformed ignorant and nonsensical American flame post. Please try and form some sort of arguement or other comment of substance before resoponding to something, thanks. And, you have no idea what a fascist is.

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Re: Name Calling
Sep 4, 2001, 11:23
Re: Name Calling Sep 4, 2001, 11:23
Sep 4, 2001, 11:23
 
#151:

You may be correct, but chances are the the readers can tell who the "hypocrites, ignorant and brainslaved dots" are by reading their posts. Pointing it out just makes you sound like one of them.

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Tony Zahn
Sofware Engineer, Achievement Technologies Inc.
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151.
 
Name Calling
Sep 4, 2001, 10:53
anon@213.3
Name Calling Sep 4, 2001, 10:53
Sep 4, 2001, 10:53
anon@213.3
 
It is just that some are really hypocrites, ignorant and brainslaved dots, and they come to this forum and post non-sense (not a thought-out and different opinion, which I would tolerate) without valuable argument(s), and with obvious no knowledge whatsoever..
Sorry but that makes me mad, and the ONLY way (there isn't ANY other since they know for SURE/FACTS what they write, although it's pure ignorance) is the hard one.
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Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 10:32
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 10:32
Sep 4, 2001, 10:32
 
hypocrites, ignorant and brainslaved dots

Obviously the point I was attempting to make is lost on someone whose mode of communication seems to be name calling.


Stephen "Blue" Heaslip
Blue's News Publisher, Editor-in-Chief, Il Presidente for Life
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Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 10:22
anon@213.3
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 10:22
Sep 4, 2001, 10:22
anon@213.3
 
"There's an old Usenet principle that says that as soon as someone makes an analogy to Nazis in a thread that it is officially over. "

That's american freedom...

Making analogies is NOT taking a side. What a bunch of hypocrites, ignorant and brainslaved dots...
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No subject
Sep 4, 2001, 10:19
No subject Sep 4, 2001, 10:19
Sep 4, 2001, 10:19
 
Here here Blue!

What some of us were hoping to be a sensible discussion about American politics and the media/government us of computer games as a scapegoat for child violence has, as usual, develolved into middle-school level namecalling. A bunch of people with strong views and little information insult each other because they don't agree...

Please people, if you can't make a post without referring to someone as a Nazi or a MF-er or some other vile thing, please spare us all, and just don't make the post. Thanks.

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Sofware Engineer, Achievement Technologies Inc.
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Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 09:30
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 09:30
Sep 4, 2001, 09:30
 
There's an old Usenet principle that says that as soon as someone makes an analogy to Nazis in a thread that it is officially over.

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146.
 
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 09:18
anon@213.3
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 09:18
Sep 4, 2001, 09:18
anon@213.3
 
"Dubyah wasnt elected by the 'fascist right wingers' for 2 reasons: 1. He was chosen by other people (still, a lesser evil compared to the nutcase Gore) 2. Fascism is a 'left wing' government, ala socialism communism etc, anarchism is the 'right wing'. Not to be confused with lawlessness though. A nazi is a national socialist. So its pretty much guaranteed that your from a socialist european country( or canada, and while the US is moving left, we still have more freedoms than you thx. "

How is it possible to be so ignorant and so dumb?
We just can't discuss with americans-braindeads, can we ??? You are just so full of yourself, selfish and completly ignorant. Don't come to this forum and write non-sense like these because you don't have any clue about what's going on in the world.

Just learn so stuff before you write anything.
What the hell do you know about Europe: worst what do you even know about anything ???
Don't come here and write stuff about politics, fascism, etc. because you don't have any clue.

And about freedom... what a joke: You Apesmericans THINK (I wonder how it is possible since you have no brain) you have freedom but you don't !! I lived in the States for a couple of years and I don't this YOUR freedom is what the definition of freedom should be. Just think about it:
You're supposed to live in a democratic country where you elect a president by democratic means (voting), but in the last case, you didn't... Federal court had the final decision about your president, meaning more fascist-republicains approving nonsense-fascist laws, thus electing George W (as for Walker Texas F^cker) Pricktree !!!
145.
 
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 08:45
Re: NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 08:45
Sep 4, 2001, 08:45
 
Dubyah wasnt elected by the 'fascist right wingers' for 2 reasons: 1. He was chosen by other people (still, a lesser evil compared to the nutcase Gore) 2. Fascism is a 'left wing' government, ala socialism communism etc, anarchism is the 'right wing'. Not to be confused with lawlessness though. A nazi is a national socialist. So its pretty much guaranteed that your from a socialist european country( or canada, and while the US is moving left, we still have more freedoms than you thx.

This comment was edited on Sep 4, 08:48.
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Re: david walsh is an idiot
Sep 4, 2001, 07:19
anon@208.24
Re: david walsh is an idiot Sep 4, 2001, 07:19
Sep 4, 2001, 07:19
anon@208.24
 
How long are we going to allow this witch-hunt to continue ?
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NRA = Nazi Riffle Association
Sep 4, 2001, 03:35
anon@195.186
NRA = Nazi Riffle Association Sep 4, 2001, 03:35
Sep 4, 2001, 03:35
anon@195.186
 
F^cking nazies !!
Not surprising since the president of the United States of Apes is a fascist too... and a pretty dumb one.
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