In its opinion, the Supreme Court acknowledged that for 170 million Americans TikTok offers “a distinctive and expansive outlet for expression, means of engagement, and source of community.”
But the court said, Congress was focused on national security concerns and that, the court said, was a deciding factor in how it weighed the case.
“Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary to address its well-supported national security concerns regarding TikTok’s data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary,” the court wrote.
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 22:31:Oh no, "revive the economy, reduce unemployment, increase military spending, withdraw from international treaty obligations!" The horror! TIL anyone that wants to do any of these is literally HITLER reincarnate!Razumen wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 21:57:
Cry over something that's not true? You can literally search "Trump is mysognistic" and get results.
I can't wait for old Trumpy boy to finally achieve this supposed dictatorship that he somehow failed to even attempt the first time he was president.
If you'd read what I wrote, I started it with, "if it's true."
And chill. I didn't mean to pick on your Christ and Savior, Just pointing out that a lot of things he says are identical to what was said by the guy with the silly mustache.
As for the rest, it's a direct quote from the article. Maybe read a little past the dictatorship part and skip on down to 'campaign promises to revive the economy" to the end, because Donny has said every one of those things..
If you have a beef, take it up with The Atlantic.
Razumen wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 21:57:
Cry over something that's not true? You can literally search "Trump is mysognistic" and get results.
I can't wait for old Trumpy boy to finally achieve this supposed dictatorship that he somehow failed to even attempt the first time he was president.
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 21:14:Cry over something that's not true? You can literally search "Trump is mysognistic" and get results.Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 20:21:If it's true, there's only one answer. Cry.Beamer wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 20:19:I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Except anti-Trump searches are now being censored on Tiktok in the US
I'm going to post this one time, please note that you can substitute Adolf for donny and Americans for Germans.
How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days The Atlantic
Archived link http://archive.today/xh2Ci
Hitler opened the meeting by boasting that millions of Germans had welcomed his chancellorship with “jubilation,” then outlined his plans for expunging key government officials and filling their positions with loyalists. At this point he turned to his main agenda item: the empowering law that, he argued, would give him the time (four years, according to the stipulations laid out in the draft of the law) and the authority necessary to make good on his campaign promises to revive the economy, reduce unemployment, increase military spending, withdraw from international treaty obligations, purge the country of foreigners he claimed were “poisoning” the blood of the nation, and exact revenge on political opponents.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 20:21:If it's true, there's only one answer. Cry.Beamer wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 20:19:I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Except anti-Trump searches are now being censored on Tiktok in the US
Beamer wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 20:19:I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Except anti-Trump searches are now being censored on Tiktok in the US
Razumen wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 19:07:
It's just about propaganda, they lost Twitter, and are now mad that a foreignly owned system is so popular. This is why they are so adamant about it being sold, and not just banned altogether from the start. Not to mention other Freudian slips by politicians alluding to it being about that more than "data security."
There's been no real evidence that it collects any more data than any other app, and the congressional hearing with the companies president was a joke, with questions like (and I'm not kidding): "Ïf I'm using Tiktok and put earphones in, does the app know what I'm thinking?" 🤣
Ted had a firm grasp on the techMr. Tact wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 19:53:
Well, China probably already owns all the tubes, right? I mean, that's all the internet is, a series of tubes.
Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got... an Internet [email] was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.
Razumen wrote on Jan 20, 2025, 19:07:Well, China probably already owns all the tubes, right? I mean, that's all the internet is, a series of tubes.
It's just about propaganda, they lost Twitter, and are now mad that a foreignly owned system is so popular. This is why they are so adamant about it being sold, and not just banned altogether from the start. Not to mention other Freudian slips by politicians alluding to it being about that more than "data security."
There's been no real evidence that it collects any more data than any other app, and the congressional hearing with the companies president was a joke, with questions like (and I'm not kidding): "Ïf I'm using Tiktok and put earphones in, does the app know what I'm thinking?" 🤣
Jivaro wrote on Jan 19, 2025, 03:44:Can you point me to an article which explains how the "data access" Tik Tok might provide is such a danger? Because I have read several articles on this subject and I haven't read anything to date which seemed any worse than the corporate nonsense which is going on all over the place. I mean, yeah -- on the face of it, we should be more worried about the Chinese government abusing "data access" than corporations doing so. What is this data? How is it a danger? And frankly, the fact politicians and the courts are signing off on this doesn't carry a lot of weight. Politicians are... well politicians. And the courts think corporations are people. To say they get things wrong sometimes is giving them a lot of credit.
You don't see a difference between American commercial business interests and how they might abuse data access and Chinese government/millitary interests and how they might abuse acess? I admit to being surprised by that. I can say that I see a big difference, starting with the American population's ability to hold anyone accountable and working up from there. Our government is engaged in a cyber-cold war with the CCP, whether the populations want it or not. Most of the "damage" from Tik Tok is probably already done, but that is not a reason to not stop the bleeding. Do I believe that the threat is being overblown a bit? I would love to think so, but in truth I would have no idea. Both political parties getting together over two presidencies to find a way (multiple times) to apply a ban that even the Supreme Court couldn't undo is either conspiracy theory fuel or evidence that the threat is real depending on who you are and what you believe. I believe our politicians are too fucking selfish and money hungry to spend one second on anything both bipartisan AND unpopular with voters if it weren't for real. Maybe I will be wrong when it all shakes out but I feel pretty confident in the reasoning. We all have access to the same info out there. I read it and this is where I came out at but I am sure there are plenty of interpretations.
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It's just like I said, I don't like bans...I just don't have a better ideas.
Jivaro wrote on Jan 17, 2025, 22:15:As opposed to all the corporations who are actually currently using that data to market people to other corporations? Personally, I think the national security angle is overblown. Could Chinese government force Tik Tok to give them data. Sure. Could the Chinese government try to use Tik Tok to influence US public opinion? Of course. I just don't really understand how this is that different from a US without Tik Tok.
National security is a legitimate issue, Tik Tok has to go in the absence of sufficient proof that it can protect our citizens data from the CCP. That said, this is the kind of thing that throws down a precedent that can and most likely will be abused in the future. I wish I had a better solution then a ban, I don't.
Jim wrote on Jan 17, 2025, 18:52:You might want to revise your "we".
We have porn hub for that, at least until the next supreme court ruling :-)
# in millions (loosely rounded)
RogueSix wrote on Jan 17, 2025, 16:18:We have porn hub for that, at least until the next supreme court ruling :-)
Haha no more jacking off to scantily clad TikTok girlies for ya yanks!![]()