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"I Consider It Hot Garbage": Older Adults Are Sharing The "Modern" Technology They Refuse To Use, And I Couldn't Imagine Living Without Some Of These reproduces a BuzzFeed article. It's not like I can deny being old, but I was still surprised to see that I agree with the olds pretty much completely. Just a lot of hot garbage. Update: Apparently I did not see the entire list, and I my agreement actually ends at #13. We are not actually anti-dishwasher or anti-television here.

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Re: OotB: Aging out
Jan 14, 2025, 19:58
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 14, 2025, 07:36:
Razumen wrote on Jan 14, 2025, 01:39:
Ironically, I also don't have a clothes drier, for a few reasons. 😅
But hanging them up to dry and just waiting is stupidly trivial. It also means my clothes aren't worn out as quickly.
Fine a lot of the time, but if you are in a temperate weather area it can be problematic. Say, like right now when average outside temperature has been below freezing for a few weeks or in the spring when it rains on and off each day for two weeks straight.
Nah, I just hang them up inside in winter, works just as well.
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Jan 14, 2025, 12:21
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Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 16:03:
Bodolza wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:58:
Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:10:
* Self-checkout is ideal

Most stuff I'm pretty ambivelent about, but this one I absolutely hate. It's just slower and more work. The only upside for the shopper is making it incredibly easy to steal. Those scanners can't tell an organic meyer lemon from anything vaguely round and yellow.

I find it faster, personally, and more painless. Never a line for them, and I'm out so much quicker.

No quicker way to checkout at the Home Depot, but I don't like using them at the super market. The Sam's Club self checkout using their app (you scan your purchases using your phone) is awesome. Never have to wait in a line.
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Re: OotB: Aging out
Jan 14, 2025, 07:36
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Razumen wrote on Jan 14, 2025, 01:39:
Ironically, I also don't have a clothes drier, for a few reasons. 😅
But hanging them up to dry and just waiting is stupidly trivial. It also means my clothes aren't worn out as quickly.
Fine a lot of the time, but if you are in a temperate weather area it can be problematic. Say, like right now when average outside temperature has been below freezing for a few weeks or in the spring when it rains on and off each day for two weeks straight.

I occasionally ponder how fortunate I was to be born at a time and location where modern plumbing was available. As a former boy scout I have used outdoor latrines and I'm very glad that isn't the standard at home.
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Re: OotB: Aging out
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Cutter wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 20:39:
Razumen wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 19:47:
Liking or not liking books isn't the problem, it's dealing with them afterwards that is. Of course I prefer a real book in my hands, but it's just not practical a lot of the time to bring a book/s with you, and a lot easier to read digitally.

I can understand not having a dishwasher, it's not hard or really time consuming to hand wash dishes if there's only one or two people in your home. Now not having a washing machine for clothes would be a nightmare.

Holy shit yes! Most people have no idea what a nightmare doing laundry by hand was. Almost the entirety of a woman's work week was dedicated to doing laundry. Most of the day, six days a week, laundry. It was honestly like serving a sentence. I tell you, post nuclear war people will miss toilet paper most, but washing machines will be a very close second.
Ironically, I also don't have a clothes drier, for a few reasons. 😅
But hanging them up to dry and just waiting is stupidly trivial. It also means my clothes aren't worn out as quickly.
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Jan 13, 2025, 20:50
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#20: Shitty lists on dead Internet sites trying to be edgy.
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Re: OotB: Aging out
Jan 13, 2025, 20:39
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Jan 13, 2025, 20:39
 
Razumen wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 19:47:
Liking or not liking books isn't the problem, it's dealing with them afterwards that is. Of course I prefer a real book in my hands, but it's just not practical a lot of the time to bring a book/s with you, and a lot easier to read digitally.

I can understand not having a dishwasher, it's not hard or really time consuming to hand wash dishes if there's only one or two people in your home. Now not having a washing machine for clothes would be a nightmare.

Holy shit yes! Most people have no idea what a nightmare doing laundry by hand was. Almost the entirety of a woman's work week was dedicated to doing laundry. Most of the day, six days a week, laundry. It was honestly like serving a sentence. I tell you, post nuclear war people will miss toilet paper most, but washing machines will be a very close second.
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Re: OotB: Aging out
Jan 13, 2025, 19:47
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Jan 13, 2025, 19:47
 
Liking or not liking books isn't the problem, it's dealing with them afterwards that is. Of course I prefer a real book in my hands, but it's just not practical a lot of the time to bring a book/s with you, and a lot easier to read digitally.

I can understand not having a dishwasher, it's not hard or really time consuming to hand wash dishes if there's only one or two people in your home. Now not having a washing machine for clothes would be a nightmare.
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Jan 13, 2025, 19:01
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Hey all. I'll chime in. There's no technology that off the top of my head I out-and-out refuse to use that I can think of. Just different things that I have no use for personally. Although I would say that anything extremely environmentally unfriendly that I can do myself or live without I would most likely avoid.

Oh, and for what it's worth, my sister and I don't have a dishwasher.
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Jan 13, 2025, 18:18
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gsilver wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 18:13:
And the people refusing to use self-checkout have a point.
I've had some bad experiences with them, especially if I need to do something horrible like use more bags than there are spots in the bagging area, or the worst crime of all, scanning something before realizing that there isn't an open bag to put it in. It'll treat you like a shoplifter if you have to set down an item before putting it in a bag.

They haven't worked like that in 5+ years
no more bag issues
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Re: OotB: Aging out
Jan 13, 2025, 18:13
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And the people refusing to use self-checkout have a point.
I've had some bad experiences with them, especially if I need to do something horrible like use more bags than there are spots in the bagging area, or the worst crime of all, scanning something before realizing that there isn't an open bag to put it in. It'll treat you like a shoplifter if you have to set down an item before putting it in a bag.
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Jan 13, 2025, 17:51
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The one who doesn't like ereaders either has a very big house (likely, because earlier generations could manage to afford better housing) or doesn't read many books. An avid reader is going to run into problems pretty quickly with physical books.

Example: My dad, who has a 4 bedroom house that's unconscionably full of books. And, yes, he's read most of them.
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Jan 13, 2025, 17:02
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Dishwashers on average use way less water than washing by hand. They're hyper efficient these days, and do a great job sanitizing dishes in a way that hand washing simply can't do.

Dishwasher or washing by hand – which uses more water?

A full dishwasher uses about 13 litres of water to clean 144 items. Washing the same load by hand uses about 100 litres of water on average, according to a study by the University of Bonn in Germany.

Yeah, some of that list is definite curmudgeon city...."E-readers. I was gifted an Amazon Fire tablet, which I use for the internet, recipes, and DIY stuff. But for reading, I want to hold an actual book." Are you kidding me? Tablets are a godsend. A zillion times better than a book. Weighs about the same, but can hold thousands of books, adjustable font sizing, font color and page color options. You can store films, music, etc. Love them to death, especially when traveling. I'm not a fan of any single use devices of any kind, so I do agree specifically as it applies to E-readers and their walled gardens.

Man, we so need laws that punish people for stupidity....

“It’s horrible when you realize that you’re the one that actually gave them the milk that killed them,” said Joseph Journell, 56, of San Bernardino.

So, even though you're not supposed to give cats, or any other animal cow milk - except baby cows, he decided to anyway, and unpasteurized milk at that.

Big Boy returned home blind and without the use of his back legs, though he is recovering, Journell said. A fourth cat, Cleo, didn’t drink the milk and remained healthy.

Journell has demanded that Raw Farm owner Mark McAfee compensate him for the more than $12,000 he spent treating the cats, according Seattle food safety lawyer Ilana Korchia, who is representing him.

He wants to be compensated for being a fucking moron that needlessly killed his pets. The state should be suing him and banning him from ever having so much as a goldfish ever again.

Nearly a dozen cats in California have died since early December after consuming raw milk or raw pet food contaminated with bird flu, health officials have said.

Journell has recovered physically but said he’s still suffering from the “mental anguish” of losing his pets. Despite the ordeal, he said he still thinks raw milk offers some health benefits.

This fucking clown seriously needs to die in a fire.
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Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 16:03:
Bodolza wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:58:
Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:10:
* Self-checkout is ideal

Most stuff I'm pretty ambivelent about, but this one I absolutely hate. It's just slower and more work. The only upside for the shopper is making it incredibly easy to steal. Those scanners can't tell an organic meyer lemon from anything vaguely round and yellow.

I find it faster, personally, and more painless. Never a line for them, and I'm out so much quicker.
Apparently the list didn't load completely for me at first. As most point out, it gets weird later on, so I retract my wholehearted agreement. The last one I really pass on is QR menus at #13.

As noted, the dishwasher at #14 is weird (I assumed prior comments were about the iOT dishwasher mentioned at #3). We don't actually have anything against them, but we don't actually have one. There wasn't one here when we moved the BlueTowe, and we're told it won't be easy to add one. Luckily there are only two of us, but MrsBlue is still determined to remedy the situation.
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Bodolza wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:58:
Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:10:
* Self-checkout is ideal

Most stuff I'm pretty ambivelent about, but this one I absolutely hate. It's just slower and more work. The only upside for the shopper is making it incredibly easy to steal. Those scanners can't tell an organic meyer lemon from anything vaguely round and yellow.

I find it faster, personally, and more painless. Never a line for them, and I'm out so much quicker.
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Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 15:10:
* Self-checkout is ideal

Most stuff I'm pretty ambivelent about, but this one I absolutely hate. It's just slower and more work. The only upside for the shopper is making it incredibly easy to steal. Those scanners can't tell an organic meyer lemon from anything vaguely round and yellow.
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* Alexa - makes some things much easier. Kitchen timers, playing music while cooking, and turning some lights on and off. It's super limited, but those things are infinitely easier with voice

* Smartlocks - my wife comes from a "leave everything unlocked" world. I don't particularly love that. Smart locks are a minor solve. We have them on the garage door - and if someone is in my garage they can break in anyway. We also have two doors in our walkout basement, and put one on those, too, because sometimes you end up in the backyard and need to get in and not having to walk around is much, much easier. Both then automatically lock every night at 10pm

* ChatGPT has its uses, especially at an enterprise level

* DoorDash makes ordering much easier. It has major downsides, for everyone but themselves, but I rarely know what I want to eat or what is out there. When I was in NYC, I was using Caviar 3-5 times a week. Now that I'm in the burbs, I use DoorDash 1-3 times a month

* I don't use Venmo, but I absolutely cash the rare check via my banking app

* QR menus - is this really that big a deal? I rarely see them anywhere other than airports these days

* Dishwasher are great

* Self-checkout is ideal

* I do a lot of cellphone interneting. It's always on me, and its convenient. But you can usually tell here if I'm using my laptop or my cellphone, as my cellphone is probably a single line

* eReaders - reading in bed is easier, reading while traveling is easier, reading on the train is easier, etc

* TV. Beats other screens

* GPS. I agree many have a poor sense of direction, but it's possible to have this as a tool to learn
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Jan 13, 2025, 14:53
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1."Alexa, Siri, or any 'smart home' voice thing." SNL skit 😂
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Re: Hot garbage
Jan 13, 2025, 14:48
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I just turned 60 and have always felt that way about dishwashers...for the most part. I NEVER use them for their intended purpose but find them incredibly handy as hidden drying racks for hand washed dishes. I've lived alone for most of my life and just don't use enough dishes to find them economical...unless I want to attract roaches by letting them pile up for several days.
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Jan 13, 2025, 14:28
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gsilver wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 13:53:

More power to the one who does without a TV

…Unless they’re on their phone all the time
I watch most shows on my PC or on tablet. There are so many ways to watch these days.
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Jan 13, 2025, 14:24
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Krapalicious wrote on Jan 13, 2025, 14:01:

Uh, not sure if you were being facetious, but the dishwasher is #14, e-readers is #17, and the laptop is #16.

(Snip)

Didn't understand the reference to the laptop. You say "why use a little keyboard and screen when you don't have to?" So, is this guy using a gigantic MacBook or something? Or, is he one of those idiots that uses an iPad with a Bluetooth mouse and full-sized keyboard?
It's a poorly formatted article. Each number should have had a bolded header. I read the comment to read that the user hates using his phone for internet and still uses the laptop for everything.

16."90% of my internet usage is still on a laptop. Why work with a tiny keyboard and a tiny screen when you don't have to?"
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