Homeworld 2 Not Cancelled

Contradicting an earlier report that seemed to confirm the rumored cancellation of Homeworld 2 (story), we received a reply from a Sierra PR representative to our inquiries about this that says in no uncertain terms that though they are involved in "negotiations with Relic regarding Homeworld 2," that rumors that the game has been cancelled are simply not true. Here is the statement:
These days anyone can email one of the less scrupulous rumor-oriented websites, say they're an insider and get a story posted about something going on at Sierra.

But that doesn't make it true. Unfortunately, when every other website runs a story about a rumor posted on another site, the public assumes that means the rumor has been "confirmed," even though it's really just the same story.

It's really impossible for us to get ahead of this particular rumor because the rumor itself is based on information that is not true.

We have not cancelled Homeworld 2.
We have not released Relic from their contract.
We have not made any sort of statement about Homeworld 2.
The negotiations with Relic regarding Homeworld 2 (which actually started long before E3) are completely divorced from the recent restructuring at Sierra.

If someone at Relic thinks the above things are true then they are mistaken. And there's no way we can predict when someone at Relic is going to contact one of you guys and say the things above.

Hopefully you can understand the situation we're in. It's hard to make a "statement" about things that aren't true, except to say that they're not true.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 25, 2001, 00:17
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 25, 2001, 00:17
Aug 25, 2001, 00:17
 
Snag's pretty PR type Generic. Regardless, it wasn't a bug.

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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 24, 2001, 22:46
anon@24.201
40.
Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 24, 2001, 22:46
Aug 24, 2001, 22:46
anon@24.201
 
Assuming a "SNAG" is a "BUG".
At least that's what I had assumed.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 24, 2001, 22:45
anon@24.201
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 24, 2001, 22:45
Aug 24, 2001, 22:45
anon@24.201
 
There it is:
Where was Homeworld 2?

Sequel to Relic's smash debut missed its planned E3 appearance


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The teaser site led everyone to believe that Homeworld 2 would make its world debut at this year's E3, but if you go there now all you'll see is a sign-up page for future information. We asked Sierra's Adam Kahn about the discrepancy, who told us that the game hit a last minute snag and really wasn't ready for the public to see. Look for the first details on this anticipated title in the next few weeks - once the team recovers from the sound and fury of this year's show.

Taken from here:
http://www.well-rounded.com/games/e32k1/index2.php?page=i&id=cmhw2

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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 24, 2001, 22:40
anon@24.201
38.
Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 24, 2001, 22:40
Aug 24, 2001, 22:40
anon@24.201
 
I think you mistoook something there.... Relic never indicated Homeworld 2 wasn't shown at E3 because of bugs. They never said anything about it at all.
I've seen it. I'll search for the article.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 24, 2001, 19:07
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 24, 2001, 19:07
Aug 24, 2001, 19:07
 
I think you mistoook something there.... Relic never indicated Homeworld 2 wasn't shown at E3 because of bugs. They never said anything about it at all.

This comment was edited on Aug 24, 19:18.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 24, 2001, 18:41
anon@24.201
36.
Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 24, 2001, 18:41
Aug 24, 2001, 18:41
anon@24.201
 
As we now publicly know, Sierra and Relic began "reviewing" their contracts prior to E3, and that information was not provided at E3 for those reasons.
So you're assuming they lied?

After re-reading the message, why doe I get the idea that this isn't directed at us, or at news sites, but to Relic?
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 23, 2001, 20:56
anon@204.50
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 23, 2001, 20:56
Aug 23, 2001, 20:56
anon@204.50
 
The rest of the people on the HW2 team were relocated onto either their Sigma team, or their (semi)secret XBox team.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 23, 2001, 20:53
anon@204.50
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 23, 2001, 20:53
Aug 23, 2001, 20:53
anon@204.50
 
Person 1: AI & scripting language & mod framework programmer
Person 2: HW2 designer
Person 3: Internal software & Tools & Plugin programmer
Person 4: Some new guy, don't know.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 23, 2001, 19:48
anon@209.240
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 23, 2001, 19:48
Aug 23, 2001, 19:48
anon@209.240
 
"Well considering the fact that 4 people on the homeworld team were just laid off last week"

And which 4 people were these?
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 23, 2001, 11:47
32.
Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 23, 2001, 11:47
Aug 23, 2001, 11:47
 
28. I think it's safe to say that it would be incorrect to assume that Homeworld 2 information was not shown at E3 because of a bug in the game. As we now publicly know, Sierra and Relic began "reviewing" their contracts prior to E3, and that information was not provided at E3 for those reasons.

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Re: What?
Aug 23, 2001, 11:34
anon@24.169
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Re: What? Aug 23, 2001, 11:34
Aug 23, 2001, 11:34
anon@24.169
 
ack! hehehe oops, in accordance to my message below, I kinda read the threads wrong hehe..... (shoulda paid attention to the numbers* So used to threads going DOWN not up :-p
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Re: What?
Aug 23, 2001, 11:30
anon@24.169
30.
Re: What? Aug 23, 2001, 11:30
Aug 23, 2001, 11:30
anon@24.169
 
will you rumor and anti sierra rats just shut up? If sierra wants or doesnt want to publish a game thats their business. It just seems like the usual pre-production rumors to me.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 22, 2001, 18:43
anon@204.50
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 22, 2001, 18:43
Aug 22, 2001, 18:43
anon@204.50
 
Well considering the fact that 4 people on the homeworld team were just laid off last week, I'd say that if it's a PR stunt, Relic's really taking it all the way.

Sierra hasn't done anything right these last couple years.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 22, 2001, 12:49
anon@24.201
28.
Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 22, 2001, 12:49
Aug 22, 2001, 12:49
anon@24.201
 
Well, we knew it wasn't cancelled, right?
I mean they said clearly that if it wasn't shown at E3 it was because of a last-minute bad bug that popped up.
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 22, 2001, 09:30
anon@38.223
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Re: This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 22, 2001, 09:30
Aug 22, 2001, 09:30
anon@38.223
 
Sorry, wrong button. Anyway, when he says:

"We have not cancelled Homeworld 2.
We have not released Relic from their contract. "

and then says:

"If someone at Relic thinks the above things are true then they are mistaken. "

What he is saying (whether he knows it or not) is that if someone at Relic believes that they have not cancelled Homeworld 2, they are mistaken. Which means that they HAVE cancelled Homeworld 2. I can only assume that's not what this dumbass meant to say.
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This PR guy needs a lesson in writing.
Aug 22, 2001, 09:22
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This PR guy needs a lesson in writing. Aug 22, 2001, 09:22
Aug 22, 2001, 09:22
 


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Double Speak...
Aug 22, 2001, 03:01
anon@209.17
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Double Speak... Aug 22, 2001, 03:01
Aug 22, 2001, 03:01
anon@209.17
 
You get so much Double Speak from Sierra these days that you feel like you are talking to politicians from a foreign country...

oh wait!

Maybe it's France!

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Re: Where are Homeworld Engine Games?
Aug 21, 2001, 20:10
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Re: Where are Homeworld Engine Games? Aug 21, 2001, 20:10
Aug 21, 2001, 20:10
 
The site is called GamaSutra I believe, although a search of their site doesn't reveal a post-mortem article about Homeworld..
Right, we never covered a Homeworld post-mortem, on Gamasutra or any other site, so perhaps it never appeared online but only in Game Developer Magazine or somesuch?

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Welp..lessie...
Aug 21, 2001, 18:54
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Welp..lessie... Aug 21, 2001, 18:54
Aug 21, 2001, 18:54
 
I've played homeworld pretty much from day 1, and I've seen assorted wierdness on it's liscence before...some comments...

"The Homeworld Games are beautiful. Why hasn't Relic licensed the engine to let other companies take the engine a few steps further?"

They DID. Barking Dog, HomeworldL Cataclysm..

"I want ITF dammit!"

Sorry, no chance, read firstones.com more

"Sigma: The Adventures of Rex Chance"
..is not only another game, but being published by Microsoft.

Frankly, this is spitting in the wind...rumours, no more, no less. If they think the storm over B5: ItF was bad, let's see them try to can HW2.

Relic wouldn't bullshit about that sort of stuff, frankly..

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Silliness
Aug 21, 2001, 17:47
anon@63.74
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Silliness Aug 21, 2001, 17:47
Aug 21, 2001, 17:47
anon@63.74
 
This "Adam Kahn" from Sierra just basically confirmed the fact that we will not see Homeworld 2. Sure unconfirmed stories are simply "rumors," but the majority of these rumors come true. Some good, some bad. In the last few weeks:

Good rumor: Raven is developing Quake 4
Bad rumor: Sierra trashed Dynamix (and now pathetically thinks the TRIBES community is going to still support them for it.)

The downfall of Sierra is near...
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