There are differences in politics and then there are people with what I call DPI: Demonstrative Willful Ignorance. They have zero intention to learn anything new out of an irrational distrust and/or anger, and thus instead rely on old and unproven information to form opinions that are then presented as facts. It's almost as if there is a deep rooted fear that if the world learned something new, that somehow makes everything they experienced before that time invalid or wrong. (sourcing one article from the 60s that actually doesn't prove anything in the first place, for example) When taken to the extreme, accepting new and verified information becomes a sign that someone has "turned". I don't recall seeing it in people below age 60 or so until recently, but maybe that was youthful ignorance. I have half of my family stuck in 1980 and the other half in 2024. We only have one guy in our family that is so irrational and angry all the time that everyone tries to avoid contact fortunately. For the most part folks get along, but it is WILD to see. I have a cousin who 100% believes her son killed a man because of a program the government put in his arm during his pediatric vaccines. 100%, truly believes it she says. Except for one problem. If that's true, why does she still live here? She is wealthy enough to move to nearly any country she wants. If I thought the governement was that evil, I am either fighting or I am out of there. She is neither, she isn't patriotic, and she and her shock jock husband are banking dollars from a cabin in the Sierras playing pranks on people....and that makes me question whether she REALLY believes it or it's just easier to say that then to accept that her kid grew up to murder someone. Now, there is a very important thing to keep in mind about people with DPI. Their passion about their beliefs may be irrational but it drives them to vote when given a canidate that "sees" them. Combine that with another 33% of Americans that get off their ass and vote, and boom...you get today's politics.


*Yes, DPI has an optional number scale, it's subjective. The lower the number, the worse the case of DPI is. So my cousin and her 'vaccines program people' theory would be like a 100, where someone like Liz Cheney (chosen for no reason at all I assure you!) would be around 3600. Still conservative, but able to accept new information from reality. I came up with this joke scale during the pandemic while talking with coworkers and randomly remembered it for no apparent reason while reading this thread. No idea why this thread jostled that memory. Weird that.

Beamer wrote on Nov 11, 2024, 08:40:
He's a major liar, too.

Wow. Just wow. Nice find, BTW. Interesting that he doesn't use the same language on this site, showing he clearly knows that won't fly around here without getting banned.

And these are the people that will soon have total control of the US government.

Beamer wrote on Nov 11, 2024, 08:40:
He's a major liar, too.

You guys will find this petty, but probably also funny.

Wish my little brother was as smart. He kept his shit up after the last election and I ultimately blocked him. Haven't spoken to him in almost 4 years.

I guess the question is whether he's lying to that group of America-hating weirdos for internet cool points, or lying to us to not seem poorly adjusted.

I wasn't wrong in my assessment. It's all him being hyper focused on exceptions not rules, things from years ago, and constantly using the F word to describe men, the D word to describe women, the not-shorthand-for-transmission word to describe the people he's weirdly obsessed with, the r word to describe everything.

Some people just don't realize that the problem isn't everyone they've never met, it's them and their attitudes.

Beam, I hope you cleared your browser cache and boiled your router after visiting that vile and disgusting site. I’m still burning sage (smudging) my phone in the hopes I won’t have to perform an exorcism on it.

I’d bet your $100, with a guaranteed chance I’d win, that he’s lying here.

yonder wrote on Nov 11, 2024, 10:41:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 21:25:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 20:46:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

I'll give you $100 if you can honestly state you don't have a single family member that you no longer communicate with regularly.

Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines. Or just state what the connection is in a halfway informed manner.

"Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines." Why would anyone ever ask a Trumper for actual evidence. Oh wait, I did the exact same thing.

We're so insensitive to their allergies.

I’d heard that the Reese’s Pieces used in vaccine development does make certain members of society allergic to common sense, logic and facts.

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 21:25:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 20:46:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

I'll give you $100 if you can honestly state you don't have a single family member that you no longer communicate with regularly.

Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines. Or just state what the connection is in a halfway informed manner.

"Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines." Why would anyone ever ask a Trumper for actual evidence. Oh wait, I did the exact same thing.

We're so insensitive to their allergies.

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

Common knowledge to those who are allergic to science and verifiable proof.

Egads the rise of people who have a burning, passionate, fact-free hatred of all vaccines without any context baffles my mind.

Why so allergic to science? I notice you provided absolutely no evidence or reference for your "common knowledge"... almost as if there is none. And I mean ACTUAL evidence, not some talking head making up shit on the spot or parroting some other talking head. And I don't mean coincidence. I mean ACTUAL evidence.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 11, 2024, 09:12:
I do not expect veracity from MAGAts. The inability to perceive reality as it is instead of what they wish it to be means they must embrace misinformation, spread disinformation, and lie not to just everyone but to themselves as well.

It's impossible to find any sort of shared reality with anyone who denies science, history, law, and and just basic human nature. I guess I now have to note that I mean all four of those topics as they actually are, not twisted, misinterpreted, or misrepresented to mean something they are definitely not.

I love that he knew his proof was so shaky he couldn't even post it. "The NYT once said they were considering peanut oil in vaccines!" Yet, there is no peanut oil in vaccines. The article he is citing says a patent was filed and a breakthrough announced. Hey, as a regular reader of Blues, he should know about all about how regularly things patented as a breakthrough come true. I mean, my cellphone battery lasts a decade on a single 5 second quick charge! In truth, peanut oil was never approved for public use. Meanwhile, peanut oil allergies and peanut allergies aren't a perfect venn diagram.

There is, however, medical evidence that fewer parasites lead to higher allergies. Is that what causes the rise of peanut allergies? Are we in fact so healthy that our immune systems are running wild looking for something to do? Are our infants so protected from disease that their immune systems just go after the next nearest thing? All more likely than peanut oil being used in a vaccine test 60 years ago and not used since.

I do not expect veracity from MAGAts. The inability to perceive reality as it is instead of what they wish it to be means they must embrace misinformation, spread disinformation, and lie not to just everyone but to themselves as well.

It's impossible to find any sort of shared reality with anyone who denies science, history, law, and and just basic human nature. I guess I now have to note that I mean all four of those topics as they actually are, not twisted, misinterpreted, or misrepresented to mean something they are definitely not.

He's a major liar, too.

You guys will find this petty, but probably also funny.

Wish my little brother was as smart. He kept his shit up after the last election and I ultimately blocked him. Haven't spoken to him in almost 4 years.

I guess the question is whether he's lying to that group of America-hating weirdos for internet cool points, or lying to us to not seem poorly adjusted.

I wasn't wrong in my assessment. It's all him being hyper focused on exceptions not rules, things from years ago, and constantly using the F word to describe men, the D word to describe women, the not-shorthand-for-transmission word to describe the people he's weirdly obsessed with, the r word to describe everything.

Some people just don't realize that the problem isn't everyone they've never met, it's them and their attitudes.

That should cut down on the misinformation being spread somewhat.

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

True !
It's confirmed that vaccines harm the brain, making the earth seem round, the moon landing credible, no proof at all voting fraud idiotic, and respect for others' rights woke or something.

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 21:25:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 20:46:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

I'll give you $100 if you can honestly state you don't have a single family member that you no longer communicate with regularly.

Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines. Or just state what the connection is in a halfway informed manner.

I don't want your money, but I have zero family members blocking or ignoring me. Granted, we have lively debates, but nothing with vitriol behind it and we still enjoy each others company, so I'm not sure what your point is with that one unless you're just trying to attack me for no reason.

As for the peanut allergies and vaccine argument, I'll let you put two and two together, because throwing a bunch of links isn't productive. But here's one formula I use, look at the CDC website and read any/all sources sited. There are old New York Times articles from the 60's talking about peanut oil being used in vaccines, so there's plenty of history for you to dog into.

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 20:46:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

Tiktok said it's true, and Tiktok never lied to you, right?

deadly allergies have always been there, Im in my 60s and had afriend who was deathly allergic to peanuts in school.

diagnostic medical techniques have improved so more maladies will be detected. as has access to autoinjectors!

I'm not a doctor, but isn't it "normal" that if people are not exposed to certain food or other possible irritants that the chance that they are allergic to them is increased? There probably is a large range between people who are just sensitive/intolerant and some few that actually a severe allergy.

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 20:46:

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

I'll give you $100 if you can honestly state you don't have a single family member that you no longer communicate with regularly.

Or, probably easier, show a single study connecting peanut allergies to vaccines. Or just state what the connection is in a halfway informed manner.

Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 18:05:

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

I hope you get help while you make your blue beads and shave your head.

^I want to title that post "Beamer Claps Back - The Motion Picture".

Just chef's kiss.

Linthat22 wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:35:
I thought it was common knowledge that the rise of peanut allergies came from the vaccines? There's a preservative in one of the childhood vaccines that trigger that response.

It's common knowledge among people who know literally nothing, are easily fooled, were low scoring in school yet believe they're the only intelligent ones, and have immediate family members that no longer talk to them not because the family members are brainwashed, as these people believe, but because these people are assholes to everyone around them

So it isn't commonly believed, no, and there's no evidence of it.

The Harvard Gazette read was really really good! Enough so to write a comment thanking you for including it.