cappy wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 14:45:

Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 09:44:
Word on the street is Trump is already annoyed at the sideshow RFK is creating and may just dump him.

Now, I think some of that is wishful thinking from the media, or them writing something based on loose rumors that they know will get enormous clicks, or something that may make Trump change his mind. But at the same time, Trump is pretty well known for making promises to people when they're useful and immediately dumping them when they're not, and in this case, he'd probably find someone worse than RKFJr, like putting Nick Fuentes or Andrew Tate in charge of it. But it'd still be hysterical for that to happen to RFK.

I have already been suggesting this is a strong possibility.

Trump cannot tolerate anyone else grandstanding and claiming the spotlight. He's also not going to like if there is strong and broad backlash against stuff RFK Jr. (or for that matter Musk who wants to gut government spending and cause pain) does or proposes. Both of those are grandstanders who also want the spotlight.

Trump would rather put someone quietly incompetent in charge of something - as he did with putting Louis DeJoy in charge of the Postal Service.

Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 09:44:
Word on the street is Trump is already annoyed at the sideshow RFK is creating and may just dump him.

Now, I think some of that is wishful thinking from the media, or them writing something based on loose rumors that they know will get enormous clicks, or something that may make Trump change his mind. But at the same time, Trump is pretty well known for making promises to people when they're useful and immediately dumping them when they're not, and in this case, he'd probably find someone worse than RKFJr, like putting Nick Fuentes or Andrew Tate in charge of it. But it'd still be hysterical for that to happen to RFK.

I have already been suggesting this is a strong possibility.

Trump cannot tolerate anyone else grandstanding and claiming the spotlight. He's also not going to like if there is backlash against stuff RFK Jr. (or for that matter Musk who wants to gut government spending and cause pain). Both of those are grandstanders who also want the spotlight.

Trump would rather put someone quietly incompetent in charge of something - as he did with putting Louis DeJoy in charge of the Postal Service.

Word on the street is Trump is already annoyed at the sideshow RFK is creating and may just dump him.

Now, I think some of that is wishful thinking from the media, or them writing something based on loose rumors that they know will get enormous clicks, or something that may make Trump change his mind. But at the same time, Trump is pretty well known for making promises to people when they're useful and immediately dumping them when they're not, and in this case, he'd probably find someone worse than RKFJr, like putting Nick Fuentes or Andrew Tate in charge of it. But it'd still be hysterical for that to happen to RFK.

MeanJim wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:22:

ZeroPike1 wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 20:03:
Get ready for the dumbest shits to ever stupid being put in charge of things that directly affect you. It’s the new normal.

If you haven't already heard, Trump has promised RFK Jr., an Anti-vaxer and conspiracy theorist, control of the CDC, FDA and other health services. Trump literally said he will let RFK Jr. go wild on public health. I'm sure Elon has bought himself a place at the head of NASA.

Ohh, ohh I’m well aware of the incoming dumpster fire this con artist will bring. The American public at large is too dumb to stop it.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:32:
Lol! Just like I was wrong about the GOP sweeping this, huh? Jesus, the cognitive dissonance with some of you is just fucking mind-boggling. Trump did well in most things, and Biden was a walking, senile clusterfuck and you guys just can't stand that it's true. So in 4 years, when America is back in good shape again, what's the excuse going to be from you and your ilk then? The world is turning away from liberalism and with good cause. But you guys go right on pretending everyone else on Earth is wrong, it's all you can actually manage to do.

Let's pretend this argument was made in good faith. What it shows is an absolutely perfect example of "low information voter" though I would posit that it is really an example of "no information voter".

Cheetolini inherited a stable, peaceful country from President Obama. Was it perfect? No, but that is the nature of governance. But it was unarguably stable. What Cutter, and others like him, fail to realize is that there is an inherent lag cycle when policy changes are made. In fact, there are four parts to a lag cycle: recognition, policy, implementation, and response. Typically that lag cycle, especially in the US, takes years to fully complete and before any measurable outcome can occur. So all the "peace and prosperity" that Cutter is worshiping Cheetolini for? Those were all the effects of Obama's policies.

But there were some things that Cheetolini did that had very short responses. For example, the COVID-19 pandemic. His utter mismanagement of COVID lead to the deaths of 1.2 million Americans. His gutting of the CDC when we needed them most. His proclamations that bleach, horse dewormer, and hydroxychloroquine (which is primarily used to treat malaria) were effective treatments.His contemptible and spurious claims that it was "All going to go away by April" even though there was not yet an effective prophylactic vaccination in place. These all had immediate effects and they were all negative.

Then there's Cheetolini's threats to pull out of NATO (which definitely had a destabilizing effect), his actual pulling out of the Paris Agreement which put a damper on getting a grip on climate change, and his cozying up to Putin which emboldened Putin.

Cutter speaks of cognitive dissonance yet his complete lack of awareness of how things actually happen, and why, paints a pretty clear picture of his own dissonance. But, like everyone else who worships a wannabe fascist tyrant because they themselves are weak people, he is blind to his own dissonance.

Maga should really be MAIR. Make American Into Russia. Soon America will have all the ingredients, a strongman who blames all problems on minorities, immigrants and anyone who disagrees publicly with him, a handful of the richest oligarchs and loyal nutjobs in charge of all government policy, the executive, legislative and judicial branches all packed with loyalists, replacing the merit based civil service with a loyalist patronage system, transferring state owned land and enterprises to a select group of oligarchs. First will come the making of a few public examples of political opponents, then when the fall out of policies produce social and economic hardship hit the base, ramping up of hate towards whatever minority, or political stance is convenient to deflect blame, rinse and repeat for as long as Trump and airs can. Works for Putin China and North Korea, who Trump admires and wishes to emulate.

Blue wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 06:37:

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:32:
Lol! Just like I was wrong about the GOP sweeping this, huh? Jesus, the cognitive dissonance with some of you is just fucking mind-boggling.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, you are going pretty ham on this topic considering you asked to return to the forums because you didn't want tot discuss politics anymore and were tired of fighting with people.

LoL, busted....

"the world is turning away from liberalism for good cause," and that cause is that a video game character once wasn't hot enough.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:32:
Lol! Just like I was wrong about the GOP sweeping this, huh? Jesus, the cognitive dissonance with some of you is just fucking mind-boggling.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, you are going pretty ham on this topic considering you asked to return to the forums because you didn't want tot discuss politics anymore and were tired of fighting with people.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:32:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:01:

DDI wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:57:
What in the historical revisionist bs, that moron lead us into a pandemic that he bungled the response, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, and tanked the goddamn economy. Biden attempted to repair the damage from that drooling orange dipshit because economic impact always lags years behind a president. Again republican blow up the economy, dems fix it and get blamed for not fixing it fast enough. The cycle continues.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:09:
Trump killed the TPP, which Hillary and the Dems wanted to ratify, so yeah, he's actually done some good stuff for the rank and file workers. And say what you like, under Trump it was 4 years of relative peace and prosperity. Under Biden and the Dems it's been a fucking gong show that's only gone from bad to worse. So, talk to me in 4 years and see where everyone is at.

It's Cutter. Facts, reality, and informed opinions aren't even in the same galaxy as he is. Don't waste any more of your time.

Lol! Just like I was wrong about the GOP sweeping this, huh? Jesus, the cognitive dissonance with some of you is just fucking mind-boggling. Trump did well in most things, and Biden was a walking, senile clusterfuck and you guys just can't stand that it's true. So in 4 years, when America is back in good shape again, what's the excuse going to be from you and your ilk then? The world is turning away from liberalism and with good cause. But you guys go right on pretending everyone else on Earth is wrong, it's all you can actually manage to do.

Imma bookmark this comment so I can shove it in your face later when your kids are living on the street and you are blaming the fact that eggs are $9 a piece on "extreme left democrats" as if such a thing existed. It's hilarious and depressing how much you are willing to suck the dick of your corporate overlords. Also, liberals are centrists, stupid fuck. Progressive policies never get off the ground because it hurts the bottom line of the billionaire class, and that's why we've never had any representation to speak of. The world isn't turning away, it's just never given the chance.

We are so fucked. RIP USA

Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 23:01:

DDI wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:57:
What in the historical revisionist bs, that moron lead us into a pandemic that he bungled the response, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, and tanked the goddamn economy. Biden attempted to repair the damage from that drooling orange dipshit because economic impact always lags years behind a president. Again republican blow up the economy, dems fix it and get blamed for not fixing it fast enough. The cycle continues.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:09:
Trump killed the TPP, which Hillary and the Dems wanted to ratify, so yeah, he's actually done some good stuff for the rank and file workers. And say what you like, under Trump it was 4 years of relative peace and prosperity. Under Biden and the Dems it's been a fucking gong show that's only gone from bad to worse. So, talk to me in 4 years and see where everyone is at.

It's Cutter. Facts, reality, and informed opinions aren't even in the same galaxy as he is. Don't waste any more of your time.

Lol! Just like I was wrong about the GOP sweeping this, huh? Jesus, the cognitive dissonance with some of you is just fucking mind-boggling. Trump did well in most things, and Biden was a walking, senile clusterfuck and you guys just can't stand that it's true. So in 4 years, when America is back in good shape again, what's the excuse going to be from you and your ilk then? The world is turning away from liberalism and with good cause. But you guys go right on pretending everyone else on Earth is wrong, it's all you can actually manage to do.

Yea, the lie that the Trump years were quiet and peaceful trigger me hard. Scandals every other week and he setup literal concentration camps but everyone seems to have forgotten.

DDI wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:57:
What in the historical revisionist bs, that moron lead us into a pandemic that he bungled the response, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, and tanked the goddamn economy. Biden attempted to repair the damage from that drooling orange dipshit because economic impact always lags years behind a president. Again republican blow up the economy, dems fix it and get blamed for not fixing it fast enough. The cycle continues.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:09:
Trump killed the TPP, which Hillary and the Dems wanted to ratify, so yeah, he's actually done some good stuff for the rank and file workers. And say what you like, under Trump it was 4 years of relative peace and prosperity. Under Biden and the Dems it's been a fucking gong show that's only gone from bad to worse. So, talk to me in 4 years and see where everyone is at.

It's Cutter. Facts, reality, and informed opinions aren't even in the same galaxy as he is. Don't waste any more of your time.

What in the historical revisionist bs, that moron lead us into a pandemic that he bungled the response, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, and tanked the goddamn economy. Biden attempted to repair the damage from that drooling orange dipshit because economic impact always lags years behind a president. Again republican blow up the economy, dems fix it and get blamed for not fixing it fast enough. The cycle continues.

Cutter wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 22:09:
Trump killed the TPP, which Hillary and the Dems wanted to ratify, so yeah, he's actually done some good stuff for the rank and file workers. And say what you like, under Trump it was 4 years of relative peace and prosperity. Under Biden and the Dems it's been a fucking gong show that's only gone from bad to worse. So, talk to me in 4 years and see where everyone is at.

ZeroPike1 wrote on Nov 7, 2024, 20:03:
Get ready for the dumbest shits to ever stupid being put in charge of things that directly affect you. It’s the new normal.

If you haven't already heard, Trump has promised RFK Jr., an Anti-vaxer and conspiracy theorist, control of the CDC, FDA and other health services. Trump literally said he will let RFK Jr. go wild on public health. I'm sure Elon has bought himself a place at the head of NASA.

Trump killed the TPP, which Hillary and the Dems wanted to ratify, so yeah, he's actually done some good stuff for the rank and file workers. And say what you like, under Trump it was 4 years of relative peace and prosperity. Under Biden and the Dems it's been a fucking gong show that's only gone from bad to worse. So, talk to me in 4 years and see where everyone is at.

Get ready for the dumbest shits to ever stupid being put in charge of things that directly affect you. It’s the new normal.

Pretty much a wishlist for corporate interests. How people thought Trump was going to be good for citizens is beyond me. He was terrible the first time. Many promises, most not kept. The only reason for data caps is corporate greed.