Out of the Blue

Today is Election Day in the U.S. If you are a voter, I'm really hoping this is not the first you're hearing of this. MrsBlue and I are about to duck out to do our civic duty. I promised the Pickle Rick on my desk an "I Voted" sticker, and he seems excited about that. We expect things to go smoothly for us, so I really appreciate those who willingly endure long-lines and other obstacles that stand between them and democracy. The stakes are high and the rhetoric has reflected that, so hopefully we can proceed peacefully through this process and its aftermath, Guy Fawkes Night notwithstanding.

To follow up on my jury duty summons, last night I learned I don't have to report tomorrow, so my luck held out. My next check-in is after business tomorrow, when I find out if I'm required to report on Thursday. I'll keep you posted.

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 11, 2024, 11:29
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Nov 11, 2024, 11:09:

Racist ?
I'm full latino, but educated enough to hear a low intelligence lying scammer as Trump and recognize what he is, so ...

How he caused hundreds of thousands of deaths with his no clue management of Covid, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, drinking bleach, and bright UV light up the ass total idiocies.
How he lied about the 2020 election, and staged an armed insurrection and enjoyed it on TV without intervening to stop the bloodshed: "no one died", he said recently and you can find the video easily.
How he treated his workforce all his life, not paying thousands and taking them to court for measly economic wins, a way of life.
How he robbed from a welfare fund, and other multiple scams (Trump University).
How he betrays left and right anyone at a whim, from world allies or NATO to faithful followers.
How he admires an fawns on dictators, wanting madly to be one, probably will if not curbed.
How he is deified in a cult like manner by dumb followers or those enriched in the chaos.
A multiple bankrupted felon instituting tariffs that are finally paid by americans as a cure all for the economy and his voters don't even understand that detail.
A sex predator and pedophile, barging in minors' vestuaries, pining for his daughter, Epstein's buddy, cheater of all his wives, burying a mother of his children in an unmarked patch of ground in one of his golf clubs to save ...
A "billionaire" eternally asking every dollar he can from his poor worshippers ...

But we are the deluded ones

WannaLogAlready, another excellent post.
But you’re wasting your time replying to people who only remember that one time they bought a dozen eggs “on-sale” for $1.50 during tRumps last term.

Low information voters are a thing, I’m not sure how we get around it.

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 11, 2024, 11:09
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Racist ?
I'm full latino, but educated enough to hear a low intelligence lying scammer as Trump and recognize what he is, so ...

How he caused hundreds of thousands of deaths with his no clue management of Covid, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, drinking bleach, and bright UV light up the ass total idiocies.
How he lied about the 2020 election, and staged an armed insurrection and enjoyed it on TV without intervening to stop the bloodshed: "no one died", he said recently and you can find the video easily.
How he treated his workforce all his life, not paying thousands and taking them to court for measly economic wins, a way of life.
How he robbed from a welfare fund, and other multiple scams (Trump University).
How he betrays left and right anyone at a whim, from world allies or NATO to faithful followers.
How he admires an fawns on dictators, wanting madly to be one, probably will if not curbed.
How he is deified in a cult like manner by dumb followers or those enriched in the chaos.
A multiple bankrupted felon instituting tariffs that are finally paid by americans as a cure all for the economy and his voters don't even understand that detail.
A sex predator and pedophile, barging in minors' vestuaries, pining for his daughter, Epstein's buddy, cheater of all his wives, burying a mother of his children in an unmarked patch of ground in one of his golf clubs to save ...
A "billionaire" eternally asking every dollar he can from his poor worshippers ...

But we are the deluded ones

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 11, 2024, 10:37
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 15:55:
The too simple people, who let their populist political group or rich religious leaders to decide for them.
One example, young male blacks and latins, systemically kept apart from a good education, the better to be duped and manipulated.
They believe that their wealthy masters care for them and not for the money they squeeze from them.

Can you get any more racist?
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 11, 2024, 03:18
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 15:55:
Most of Trump's voters are the poorly educated and mentally ill prepared to inform themselves properly, whose limited mentative capacities don't let them find the truth among all the blatantly idiotic propaganda and lying.

The too simple people, who let their populist political group or rich religious leaders to decide for them.
One example, young male blacks and latins, systemically kept apart from a good education, the better to be duped and manipulated.
They believe that their wealthy masters care for them and not for the money they squeeze from them.

Trump is a cretin, a failed businessmen afloat by grifts, scams and unpayed bills, recognized as such the world over.
He would be a Putin or an Orban, but his mediocrity allows him to be just a clownish Lukashenko.

Only people as limited as him fail to see him for what he is, excepting those who benefit who smirk and applaud.
And the USA is already paying the price, and will for a generation for his stunted insecure personality that knows no sympathy for anyone but himself.

It's exactly this rhetoric that got Trump elected again. It's exactly this talking down to the middle class elitist bullshit that you heard on all the legacy media that the people were sick and fucking tired of. The left-wingers were proud to claim they would vote for anyone other than Trump; that it wasn't about who to vote for, but who not to vote for. Get it into your thick skulls that the people who made this landslide happen, thought exactly the same about this left-wing rherotic you so masterfully portrayed right there. And I mean exactly. They're tired of being talked down to like that.

And it seems you guys just aren't learning from this defeat at all. And when these coming years go down quietly or even go down pretty good, there's no mea culpa coming. I can win money all day betting on that absolute certainty. Yet you somehow tell yourself you're not the divisive one.

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 17:29
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Beamer wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 17:02:
$33k in 93 is over $70k today.

Which is why compound interest is an important part of retirement, haha
95, not 93 -- but yeah. And it is why I was able to retire at 53 when I got laid off. Choosing a career with good salaries is always a solid decision -- in my case, Information Technology. But a good salary is just a start. You have to save, and a lot of people either don't or worse, can't. I was also aided by the fact I chose to remain single, without a wife or kids saving is a bit easier. But even that isn't good enough, you can get screwed by unfortunate timing. If I had been laid off in 2006, just before the housing/market crash I'd be a lot worse off than when I was laid off a decade later in 2016.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 17:02
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Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 16:28:
That might be a bit harsh.-- in 2023 roughly 1/4 of the people in the US had a household income of under $50k, 15% under $35k. I was making $33k in 1995. When you are living paycheck to paycheck, worried about paying your bills, digging through all the nonsense to figure out what really is going on is not even close to making it onto your to-do list. And criticizing them for it, only pushes them further away from bothering to learn the truth. It is a problem without a simple solution, possibly without a solution at all.


$33k in 93 is over $70k today.

Which is why compound interest is an important part of retirement, haha
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 16:47
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Harsh to whom ?
To people relentlessly designed to be brutish and poorer and more brainwashed by the year ?
Who then vote for the party that steps on them, impedes the slightest relief of the oppression, and the psycho who hates unions and overtime pay and healthcare for all ?

Or a perverse comfortable elite, including greedy landlords, and the little businessman who keeps the tips or makes them part of the salary *if* the employees behave ?

Eyes shut wide, an american phenomenon.


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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 16:28
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That might be a bit harsh.-- in 2023 roughly 1/4 of the people in the US had a household income of under $50k, 15% under $35k. I was making $33k in 1995. When you are living paycheck to paycheck, worried about paying your bills, digging through all the nonsense to figure out what really is going on is not even close to making it onto your to-do list. And criticizing them for it, only pushes them further away from bothering to learn the truth. It is a problem without a simple solution, possibly without a solution at all.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 15:55
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Most of Trump's voters are the poorly educated and mentally ill prepared to inform themselves properly, whose limited mentative capacities don't let them find the truth among all the blatantly idiotic propaganda and lying.

The too simple people, who let their populist political group or rich religious leaders to decide for them.
One example, young male blacks and latins, systemically kept apart from a good education, the better to be duped and manipulated.
They believe that their wealthy masters care for them and not for the money they squeeze from them.

Trump is a cretin, a failed businessmen afloat by grifts, scams and unpayed bills, recognized as such the world over.
He would be a Putin or an Orban, but his mediocrity allows him to be just a clownish Lukashenko.

Only people as limited as him fail to see him for what he is, excepting those who benefit who smirk and applaud.
And the USA is already paying the price, and will for a generation for his stunted insecure personality that knows no sympathy for anyone but himself.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 10:44
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The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. This paradox was articulated by philosopher Karl Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945), where he argued that a truly tolerant society must not tolerate those who promote intolerance. Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.

WannaLogAlready wrote on Nov 10, 2024, 04:51:
A clear conclusion arises.
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well said WannaLogAlready,
But thanks to misinterpretations of the Second Amendment, every 18 year old incel can buy an assault rifle at the corner bodega. Which makes our freedumb the best of the best.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 10, 2024, 04:51
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A clear conclusion arises.
No common popular comprehension or desire to correct the terrible situation:

For most of their people, USA can be firmly categorized as a third world country, and not even among the better ones.

- Bought and power only motivated lying politicians and justices.
- Electoral college out of the 1700s, instead of 1 vote for person, gerrymandering, no national free day for voting as in almost every other country evidencing they don't want to make voting easy or honest.
No proportional representation (PR) but for few exceptions.
Two party system limiting political options.
- Hostile to workers unions, logic wages, no days off for ill workers, nor vacations as in all other 1st world and nearly all of 3rd world countries.
- Disappearing rights of women, now a second class citizenry, increasingly following although selectively, the tenets of one of so many fantasy religious books written centuries ago.
- ** Highest mortality of mothers in any developed country, or sterility and other sequels.
- No protections for the old in their unproductive years, same for infirm or incapacitated.
- Only developed country with no universal healthcare, more yet, powerful vetting unnecessary companies gorged on denying medical care against doctors recommendations.
- A slave working imprisoned POC population, many of them on trumped up charges by a corrupt police and system or smoking pot -the horror- for years.
- Ridiculously costly renting, housing and education, and getting worse in favour of the wealthy.
- Dozens of other points.

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 8, 2024, 16:17
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Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 14:26:
The only genuinely smart investment is a low cost ETF that replicates the S&P, like VOO. Market goes up, you go up. No one has ever beaten the S&P in the long term.

That said, a lot of people really like gambling, and see the market as just more fun gambling.
Yes, the S&P 500 is mostly the way to go. And yes, the stock market is straight up gambling. Anyone saying something different is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. That said, like gambling it is sometimes possible to "game the system", a bit. But you have to be smart (smarter than me), dedicated, responsive, and willing to take some risk.

Two buddies of mine spent a couple of years playing the options game on Tesla and Amazon. They switched back and forth a couple of times. But basically both stocks had several periods of high volitivity. And at market open they would effectively buy straddle options on the stock. Then in the first few minutes of trading they would make a decision on which way it was going to go, and sell the option which was "on the wrong side" and a few minutes later sell the "good side". Each day they were in and out of the market in the first 20 minutes. They used Interactive Broker as their interface to the market which allowed them to do this stuff using scripts. So, the buys and sells happen in seconds. Obviously they didn't always get it right, but they started slow and learned what to look for in the either in the post trades of the previous day or the pre-open trading. They made good money doing it. Certainly $100k+ annually, but I never asked for specifics...

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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 8, 2024, 15:46
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Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 15:37:
Linthat22 wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 14:57:
Just a quick question for those with stage 10 TDS. Why are/were you okay with multiple indictments that were used against Trump that were based on lies and; for the most part; was ran out of the Oval Office? Why are/were you okay with the Biden administration to collude with media platforms to censor people? Why are/were you okay with this administration emboldening lies to de-platform, de-bank, and doxx people?

Maybe you forgot or are in denial, but this installed regime is what soft fascism looks like. Since we're ratcheting up the Hitler 2.0 rhetoric, it seems fair to ask again: if he was that bad before and didn't do all those things he was accused of, then why continue on the same logic? Doesn't make sense.

Speaking of fog and denial...

I'm legit asking, because those are all reported on. Heck, even recently they went after a meme maker saying he was doing election interference and will throw him in jail, so I ask, what part(s) have I said that aren't true?
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Linthat22 wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 14:57:
Just a quick question for those with stage 10 TDS. Why are/were you okay with multiple indictments that were used against Trump that were based on lies and; for the most part; was ran out of the Oval Office? Why are/were you okay with the Biden administration to collude with media platforms to censor people? Why are/were you okay with this administration emboldening lies to de-platform, de-bank, and doxx people?

Maybe you forgot or are in denial, but this installed regime is what soft fascism looks like. Since we're ratcheting up the Hitler 2.0 rhetoric, it seems fair to ask again: if he was that bad before and didn't do all those things he was accused of, then why continue on the same logic? Doesn't make sense.

Speaking of fog and denial...
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 8, 2024, 14:57
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Just a quick question for those with stage 10 TDS. Why are/were you okay with multiple indictments that were used against Trump that were based on lies and; for the most part; was ran out of the Oval Office? Why are/were you okay with the Biden administration to collude with media platforms to censor people? Why are/were you okay with this administration emboldening lies to de-platform, de-bank, and doxx people?

Maybe you forgot or are in denial, but this installed regime is what soft fascism looks like. Since we're ratcheting up the Hitler 2.0 rhetoric, it seems fair to ask again: if he was that bad before and didn't do all those things he was accused of, then why continue on the same logic? Doesn't make sense.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 8, 2024, 14:26
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Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 13:49:
Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 13:25:
I saw a poll yesterday that said that 75% of Republicans disagree that the stock market is at an all time high. If you voted Trump for your stocks, you're not thinking rationally. Also, you should be more focused on your wages and on the disparity between you and your CEO.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least, but I think it has nothing to do with them being Republicans. I'm not an investment guru, but I definitely pay closer attention to financial markets than most people and something which has become very clear is VERY few of the US population have any understanding of financial matters. All you have to do is look at the "keeping up with the Joneses" mentality which is far too prevalent to realize this. And understanding the stock market is above that, so yeah -- not many getting that far. One of my two sisters worked in finance at Intel over 25 years. She is smart and she handles her personal finances well (better than many). But she pretty much knows nothing about the stock market. I have on more than one occasion been surprised by how little she knows about how it works despite working in finance for almost 30 years.

In the past, I dunno, decade or so, "knows a lot about the stock market" has been totally exposed as bunk. For a while during the pandemic, a lot of people claimed to know a lot and be day traders, but the market was rebounding so rapidly that it was impossible to fail.

The only genuinely smart investment is a low cost ETF that replicates the S&P, like VOO. Market goes up, you go up. No one has ever beaten the S&P in the long term.

That said, a lot of people really like gambling, and see the market as just more fun gambling.
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Re: OotB: Election Day
Nov 8, 2024, 14:23
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RedEye9 wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 11:54:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 08:38:
Linthat22 wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 06:51:
blah blah
Congrats! Tied the record, one post. Welcome to #2561.
you won’t miss much
He’s an election denier and asked Blue to close his previous account under the same name*, after promising to never post again if donnie lost (which he did) in 2020.

*donnie brought us so many firsts, like the first President to not attend his successor’s inauguration, and in a round about way the first to cause Blue’s News to have two user accounts with the same name.
The OG https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=userinfo&user=56073
And today’s https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=userinfo&user=60423

Don't be jelly dude. He won this time, so I'm back! Seemed poignant.

Actually, I've always visited this site since, because I think Blue has the best gaming news website in existence.
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Nov 8, 2024, 13:49
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Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2024, 13:25:
I saw a poll yesterday that said that 75% of Republicans disagree that the stock market is at an all time high. If you voted Trump for your stocks, you're not thinking rationally. Also, you should be more focused on your wages and on the disparity between you and your CEO.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least, but I think it has nothing to do with them being Republicans. I'm not an investment guru, but I definitely pay closer attention to financial markets than most people and something which has become very clear is VERY few of the US population have any understanding of financial matters. All you have to do is look at the "keeping up with the Joneses" mentality which is far too prevalent to realize this. And understanding the stock market is above that, so yeah -- not many getting that far. One of my two sisters worked in finance at Intel over 25 years. She is smart and she handles her personal finances well (better than many). But she pretty much knows nothing about the stock market. I have on more than one occasion been surprised by how little she knows about how it works despite working in finance for almost 30 years.
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I saw a poll yesterday that said that 75% of Republicans disagree that the stock market is at an all time high. If you voted Trump for your stocks, you're not thinking rationally. Also, you should be more focused on your wages and on the disparity between you and your CEO.
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