Computer Games &... Brain Damage?

Computer games linked to brain damage (ZDnet) is a report offering an ominous message (thanks 9bears). Are these researchers on the ball or brain damaged themselves? Only time will tell. Here's a clip:
Scientists working at Tohoku University in Japan have discovered that computer games only stimulate those parts of the brain that are devoted to vision and movement, and do not aid the development of other important areas of the brain. The researchers are particularly concerned that by spending many hours playing games some children will not develop their frontal lobes--which play a crucial role in controlling behaviour, and developing memory, emotion and learning.

In contract (sic), tasks such as arithmetic will stimulate brain activity in the frontal lobe, which is thought to continue developing until adulthood.
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Re: No subject
Dec 17, 2002, 12:45
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Re: No subject Dec 17, 2002, 12:45
Dec 17, 2002, 12:45
 
who knows where i can download the update of bulders gate 2??

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No subject
Aug 26, 2001, 04:54
anon@65.10
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No subject Aug 26, 2001, 04:54
Aug 26, 2001, 04:54
anon@65.10
 
I didn't read the rest of the posts, sorry, i'm too tired to read them all right now. so sorry if this has already been pointed out, but I don't think the study is showing that children playing too many games causes brain damage, but that it hinders brain development. I think this is the most retarded post I've ever made.
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Re: No subject
Aug 25, 2001, 22:06
anon@24.201
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Re: No subject Aug 25, 2001, 22:06
Aug 25, 2001, 22:06
anon@24.201
 
Games might not be AS beneficial as doing homework BUT I wouldn't go as far as to say that they cause brain damage.
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Re: Pure crap
Aug 25, 2001, 17:47
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Re: Pure crap Aug 25, 2001, 17:47
Aug 25, 2001, 17:47
 
i'm not so sure about u but i have found that i move *LESS* when i play video games then when i play oh say...mmmhmm...whats the sport .. u know.. with the ball and the mmm thingies?

perhaps they found lil kiddies strafin round corners and thought that was cool...

i've grown up from the depths of sopwith to wolf-doom-quake-hl-maxpayne etc... and i've found that my vision needs glasses cuz i stare @ monitors and my movement is impaired by my bulbous (sp?) posterior...

so.. ... i think this study has just reinforced what we already knew... video games are fun and maff is tuff...

duh...

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Re: No subject
Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
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Re: No subject Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
 
I'm thinkin' the problem these scientists are having is that they're using older, simpler, and consoler (i don't think thats a word, but you get the point) games that are too basic to make the mind work.

Set these subjects (the one with all the brain damage ) up with Sam and Max, BG 1 or 2, Planescape, or any number of deeper games and I'd bet you'd see an improvement

I eat pasta!
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No subject
Aug 22, 2001, 13:49
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No subject Aug 22, 2001, 13:49
Aug 22, 2001, 13:49
 
I think anyone who does only one thing all day is going to neglect certain areas of their brain. I love playing computer games, but I also love coaching my son in baseball, listening to live music, reading, playing with the dogs, doing car repair, having sex with my wife, etc. We all need to make our experience well-rounded. I don't think Doom caused the Columbine murders, or even contributed to it. Sick, maladjusted losers who had no alternative, in their twisted tiny minds, but to use violence to get notoriety.

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Re: I'm Stupid!
Aug 22, 2001, 12:36
anon@198.142
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Re: I'm Stupid! Aug 22, 2001, 12:36
Aug 22, 2001, 12:36
anon@198.142
 
If you're so smart, why did you spell "hole" incorrectly?
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I'm Stupid!
Aug 22, 2001, 07:52
anon@137.229
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I'm Stupid! Aug 22, 2001, 07:52
Aug 22, 2001, 07:52
anon@137.229
 
OMG I had always thought I was smart, but I guess I was wrong! I've been playing video games for years and all this time my teachers had been brain washing me into thinking I was an honors student who gets good grades! I guess I should go crawl in a whole and die now.
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Re: greenmarines last .plan
Aug 22, 2001, 06:56
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Re: greenmarines last .plan Aug 22, 2001, 06:56
Aug 22, 2001, 06:56
 
so long as he works on DNF ^_^

maybe that fact he does is the thing making him act like he does...

shul no longer a bearcub

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I'm not so sure...
Aug 21, 2001, 20:51
anon@24.82
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I'm not so sure... Aug 21, 2001, 20:51
Aug 21, 2001, 20:51
anon@24.82
 
I remember last year doing a classical mechanics assignment for 16 hours. I can tell you I wanted to kill someone after doing that!
Try calculating at what point on spinning wheel mud would fly off the highest and see how much brain power you have after that.
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Re: greenmarines last .plan
Aug 21, 2001, 19:50
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Re: greenmarines last .plan Aug 21, 2001, 19:50
Aug 21, 2001, 19:50
 
No, that's just Brandon being...special.

Not caring what he does/says so long as he works on DNF ^_^,
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greenmarines last .plan
Aug 21, 2001, 14:50
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greenmarines last .plan Aug 21, 2001, 14:50
Aug 21, 2001, 14:50
 
check this out:
http://www.bluesnews.com/plans/370/

... it seems that those scientists are right...

shul

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Pure crap
Aug 21, 2001, 01:36
anon@203.146
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Pure crap Aug 21, 2001, 01:36
Aug 21, 2001, 01:36
anon@203.146
 
>Scientists working at Tohoku University in Japan have
>discovered that computer games only stimulate those parts
>of the brain that are devoted to vision and movement, and
>do not aid the development of other important areas of the
>brain

Wow! That's impressive! There is no 'discovery' here... Furthurmore as anyone on this board knows not all games have to do with vision and movement. I doubt I developed vision and movement skills playing heroes of might and magic. Many games stress problem solving, strategy, and other skills.

> The implications are very serious for an increasingly
> violent society and these students will be doing more and
> more bad things if they are playing games and not doing
> other things like reading aloud or learning arithmetic."

Learning arithmetic for hours on end develops kind peace loving children with properly developed adult brains, while playing video games turns us into evil violent people. Can anyone say "witch hunt"? Pure junk. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this "scientific" study was commisioned and paid for by a group with 3rd party interests. Like "Parents against video games" or something like that... Also what is this "increasingly violent" society nonsense. I'd like to see the proper study that shows that japan is increasingly violent.

>Kawashima's study looked at the brain activity of hundreds
>of students playing a Nintendo game, and compared it to

A single game results in broad sweeping generalizations about the future mental stability of all children playing ANY video game. Please....

>other students who were carrying out basic arithmetic. It
>found that much more brain activity was needed to solve
>the simple mathematic tasks than was used to play the
>computer games

Wow! more thought required to solve arithmatic problems than play (mario cart?)! fantastic! That IS a discovery! Give him the nobel prize!

This so called 'study' falls into the same category as homeopathy, astrology, car fuel magnets, touch therapy, healing crystals and other pseudo-scientific bs. The study as presented in the article is clearly biased. In science you don't perform a study to prove a conclusion (ie video games are bad for you.) Even if the results were perfectly accurate, which I doubt highly, they don't in any way allow this psuedo scientist to voice the conclusions presented here. All you can say from a study like this(if even) is that a particular game was shown to develop parts of the brain related to vision and movement, which is not necissarily a bad thing.
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Re: Anti-Japanese?
Aug 20, 2001, 20:12
anon@165.228
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Re: Anti-Japanese? Aug 20, 2001, 20:12
Aug 20, 2001, 20:12
anon@165.228
 
I know of a number of Japenese games that are not released outside of Japan simply because they are deemed too 'cranial' for a western audience. A comparison of final fantasy mechanics versus Bulders gate/Fallout should give you an idea.

Anyway, that report didnt really bother me....its complete bollocks. Ive played games for 20 years (age 8), finished top of school, university, and am now a lead programmer.
I can think of 8 other similar cases off the top of my head...without exception.
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Re: Anti-Japanese?
Aug 20, 2001, 20:04
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Re: Anti-Japanese? Aug 20, 2001, 20:04
Aug 20, 2001, 20:04
 
Well, I would like to think that not *everybody* bashed Japanese games.

It just goes to show you that there are some people who are angry, there are cultural differences between the two countries, and possible tensions between both sides (among other thing.)

Of course, this ignores the whole "One message board regarding one news story on one gaming website" aspect and how this is only X percentage of the total people.

On a completely personal basis, I highly respect the Japanese gaming market. I have some differences with the gaming culture and standards, but I think it is respected much more by the masses and there is a lot of creativity to be found within it.

Games are games; people play them and, hopefully, will have some fun doing so. ^_^

Planning on buying both consoles this Christmas,
Ray

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Re: Anti-Japanese?
Aug 20, 2001, 19:34
anon@24.76
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Re: Anti-Japanese? Aug 20, 2001, 19:34
Aug 20, 2001, 19:34
anon@24.76
 
doesnt japan have the highest child suicide rate in the world?

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Anti-Japanese?
Aug 20, 2001, 19:08
anon@66.156
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Anti-Japanese? Aug 20, 2001, 19:08
Aug 20, 2001, 19:08
anon@66.156
 
I don't quite understand why everyone has gone off on bashing Japanese games. Many of their games are very creative and intelligent, more so than a large percentage of American releases. What makes you think that Japanese children have any less of a life than you Americans?

*sigh* Makes me sick.
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Damn
Aug 20, 2001, 16:51
anon@66.47
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Damn Aug 20, 2001, 16:51
Aug 20, 2001, 16:51
anon@66.47
 
After I messed up my brain, now they tell us.......shame on them.
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Re: No subject
Aug 20, 2001, 16:46
anon@208.35
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Re: No subject Aug 20, 2001, 16:46
Aug 20, 2001, 16:46
anon@208.35
 
....don't they even know that when you're leading a target with a rocket launcher, you're implicitly doing calculus?

I hope you're joking.


Well, of course it's meant to be humorous - but at the same time it's true. It's the same with driving and constantly adjusting orientation and speed, judging by the person in front of you, etc. It's all real-world calculus (automatically done by your brain with its life-experience), the math of related rates of change.

I see #29 got it as intended.
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Me loose brain?
Aug 20, 2001, 16:07
anon@192.31
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Me loose brain? Aug 20, 2001, 16:07
Aug 20, 2001, 16:07
anon@192.31
 
Uh oh!
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