Cutter wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 17:31:
$80 to have EA preach left wing extremism at me? Hard pass. I'll stick to games that are just games thanks.

You're really missing out on a good game, though.

Whenever the cringe-de-la-cringe scenes or dialogues come by, I just imagine the game director forcing the devs to put it in. That leads me to feel sorry for the talent more than letting it influence my opinion of the game. I'll just pretend the pandering and lecturing didn't happen and continue enjoying the game. It does bring comfort to know there's a fine army of angry gamers who let Bioware and EA feel that games aren't the platform for this type of obvious socio-political messaging.

I'm 17 hours in and I'm loving it to death while I've barely scratched the surface. It's unbelievable I paid the same money for Space Marine 2, a mediocre game I finished in 7 hours. Its critical acclaim still angers me, haha!

I’ve seen a lot of online complaints about what some people call "wokeness" in the Veilguard, and I'm not entirely surprised. For example, they include vasectomy scars as character options, but it’s surprisingly hard to find basic hair styles for male characters that aren’t ultra-stylized. Plus, there’s a noticeable lack of dialogue choices that let you shape your character as a unique hero in line with your chosen faction or role-playing style. Meanwhile, there’s prominent dialogue around transgender topics and a dedicated scene early in the game that highlights this theme. It seems like the game’s focus on gender topics reflects the social and political conversations happening during its development. I understand why some players might find this frustrating, and they should be able to freely express that without being bullied for it, but it’s far less intrusive than some content creators make it seem.

8 hours in and I'm having a blast. It's different, so some people are bound to hate it, and it's BioWare/EA, so some people will choose to hate it regardless, but it's a solid game with fun combat.
To those hating on it for being 'political' or 'woke': It's Dragon Age, you fucking tourists.

Jim wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 21:44:
example mage combat guide: (just something to briefly look at when asking about combat)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj-AE-GVvTo

This looks fun but wow this wasn't what I was expecting from a dragon age game.

That clip is ultra cringe. Wow.

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Dragon Age: The Veilguard Launch Beats Jedi Survivor to Make It EA's Biggest Ever Single-Player Game on Steam

At the time of publication, Dragon Age: The Veilguard's peak was about 70,414 concurrents, putting it just outside the top 10 most played games on the platform with mostly positive reviews. It sits one spot ahead of Baldur's Gate 3, which continues to enjoy ongoing success thanks to the introduction of mods and other new features. EA previous high watermark was Jedi Survivor, which managed an all-time peak of 67,855.

its not great numbers, but they are not bad either. the game is fairly well optimized for PC, does not contain intrusive DRM. Lots of people it seems want the game to fail. This will disappoint them.

fakespyder wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 21:58:
Cheers for the information Riahderymnmaddog. I'm assuming you're not in satire-mode.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, people are enabling a feature just so they can complain.

This is where we are.

I can't say for certain just yet, but that appears to be the case. I don't think they are enabling that feature as much as they are going to a LBGTQ website, watching someone else play and review the game, and getting all teary eyed over that person's choices.

RogueSix wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 15:44:

AlexSledge wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 15:00:
I can’t see it being a worthwhile purchase for me, but then again the last Bioware game I played was, I believe, Bioshock 2

Bruh

You might want to google that one again. Hint: Just because the game is called Bio-something does not make it a BioWare developed game .

Ah, yeah, well my next best guess would be Neverwinter Nights 2, and not for long, though I thought the first was great, though.

When you’ve been gaming hard since the mid 70’s it all starts to blend together. The number of studios who have lost their way is endless.

The global big name game industry seems to be a slump like amerian auto industry in the 70s, periodic remixes with of last years model. Sure plenty of new plastic and chrome shinies, slightly different style, fresh new PR packaging, but still just pretty much the same old same old with a few more gee gaws, bells and whistles.

I can wait for the bargain bin on this one.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 19:15:
Is the combat good? Gameplay fun ? That's what I care about the most.

I don't. At least not with a Dragon Age game because combat and gameplay has never been their strong suit. Dialogue, story, companions, (mild) choices & consequences, lore... that's Draon Age and why, beyond the great Origins, I even played and finished part 2 and DAI including all DLCs.

However, going by the reviews that is exactly where DATV jumped off the planet. Writing, story, characters... everything that made former Dragon Ages great is supposed to be abysmally shitty according to actual user reviews. Even some of the 10/10 paid "professional" reviews mentioned that the script is a bit... wonky.

When I get around to it, I will just approach it like a comedy game. I think that will be the best course of action, i.e. just playing it for the lulz and deliberately choosing the edgelordy/edgelady-y/edgetranny (hope three genders covers it?) dialogue options to see what happens.

My main character will be a fat bearded male looking dwarf in pink armor with one huge tit and the other boob will be gone with massive mastectomy scars to prove it. Gonna pick the most girlie voice and be the biggest asshole to all party members and NPCs in the game. I hope the writing at least won't disappoint in that regard and that you can play a proper "evil" fuckwit.

There is a type of mind with a maximum storage capacity, already full with fixed choices and worshipping of the right ways™.

Please, don't exceed that with new concepts.
They will provoke pain, anger and lashing out.
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Will love to play DATV, even if the veil and demons trope has me a little tired.

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Jim wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 22:07:
...kind of like what happened to CDPR over their character creation screen, except they don't show genitalia here.

No Qunari cooch? NO BUY!

1badmf wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 21:23:
is the game's political messaging really as up front as others say? if it is i'd have to pass. i play fantasy games to get away from real life stupidity of both leanings. i'm pretty left socially, but even i had to turn off star trek discovery for how in your face its political messaging was.

I have played about 90 minutes (intro) and not seen any at all in the game. In the character creation screen you do have options as to how to be addressed (pronouns) and also if undergarments cover chest or not and "bulge". of course any time you mention pronouns it makes conservative heads explode. kind of like what happened to CDPR over their character creation screen, except they don't show genitalia here.

Cheers for the information Riahderymnmaddog. I'm assuming you're not in satire-mode.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, people are enabling a feature just so they can complain.

This is where we are.

example mage combat guide: (just something to briefly look at when asking about combat)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj-AE-GVvTo

Well I am about an hour in. The graphics are absolutely amazing, animations are way smoother then DAi, the voice acting is solid. I dont know what frame rate i am getting but it is smooth with DLSS turned off @4k ultra settings and RTX set to ultra. My biggest complaint so far is that at only 90 gigs it took nearly 3 hours to install. Yeah, it's not DAO, but the world has changed, and I am no longer the target demographic. Ill update tomorrow with my first impressions. so far, it's great. I cant say $60 is a great price yet, but man.... gaming has come a long way since DAO.

As regards to that W0kE dialog that is casing so much wailing and gnashing of teeth, you have to specifically enable it, that's right. You don't have to opt out, you have to opt in, the same for the nudity.... you have to enable that too. Imagin Googling the closet ghay bar, writing down the address, getting into your vehicle and driving to said bar, going inside, buying a dude a drink and flirting with him, and then complaining that ghay men are trying to hook up with you for some reason.

I also saw Asmongold complain that there were no numbers in combat...... you know what there an option to turn on? numbers in combat. .

Maybe the internets "most trusted game reviews" should start playing the games that they have such strong opinions about rather than just repeating whatever hot spicy take is trending on reddit, without ever even installing, let alone playing the game.

Jim wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 19:06:
lol, I’m playing it, and I am enjoying it. I am pretty sick and tired of all the snowflakes nowadays criticizing games they’ve never played because their sensitive feefees are offended for *reason*. I don’t agree with them blocking certain outlets from review copies however I can understand that in today’s climate companies feel the need to protect their product. you can complain about morality, but morality has always been woven into these types of games forever. It’s just that now people don’t like the target of the morality. so if this is unpalatable to you, play something you would rather enjoy. I will enjoy this for the rest of us

is the game's political messaging really as up front as others say? if it is i'd have to pass. i play fantasy games to get away from real life stupidity of both leanings. i'm pretty left socially, but even i had to turn off star trek discovery for how in your face its political messaging was.

Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 16:05:
Actually I apparently can't count rather than misspelled it. I saw 2 bold red "REMOVED" in consecutive posts and didn't see that one was a quote of the other. I'm not having a great day in the forum. I will punish myself severely I can assure you.

I was jus' joshin' with ya. 🙂

Cutter wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 17:31:
$80 to have EA preach left wing extremism at me? Hard pass. I'll stick to games that are just games thanks.

Lululululuululluulull "left wing extremism". Wanting humans to be treated as humans sure is extreme. Meanwhile, you're voting for a life-long fraud, rapist (both of women and children), and who has said he will be a dictator... That's not extremist. 🤪😂😂😂😂😂🐑🐑🐑🐑 Fucking snowflake. 🙄