Cutter wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 18:19:

ZeroPike1 wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 12:26:

VaranDragon wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 10:42:
Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

Well the important bit.

When seeking advice from other Redditors (as well as planning on getting a free legal consultation on the matter), some replies pointed out that using an NDA before receiving a refund may be against UK law and EU law. Further, a look through the refunds FAQ and its terms of service don’t mention an NDA requirement.

FeralSquirrels did point out that he isn’t signing anything before seeking counsel and that he has until November 8th to respond to CIG, so it’s possible that news of this added obstacle may unfurl further in the next few days.

Yea an NDA outside of the US in this function might as well not even exist with how useless NDA's are in the world. Inside the US however, it should be noted that an NDA is null and void when a crime has/is being committed. So we will see where this ends up.

And it was established that CIG is committing a felony when exactly? I don't even understand why they would want him to sign one. It's not like one more guy on the dogpile ragging on CIG is going to make a lick of difference at this point. If anything, this just moves them even further into a worse light. How the fuck can such an incompetent group of people raise this sort of money? Boggles...the...mind.

I tend to think its more of a veiled threat. If they can keep one person quiet with an NDA it might stifle others from wanting a refund as well. I think they want to prevent this from snowballing into a mass refund situation. It would probably sink the company.

Armengar wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 16:42:
echoing a previous post. This must be an american, here in europe that nda wouldnt mean shit if a person was forced to get a refund.

He's from the UK.

ZeroPike1 wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 12:26:

VaranDragon wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 10:42:
Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

Well the important bit.

When seeking advice from other Redditors (as well as planning on getting a free legal consultation on the matter), some replies pointed out that using an NDA before receiving a refund may be against UK law and EU law. Further, a look through the refunds FAQ and its terms of service don’t mention an NDA requirement.

FeralSquirrels did point out that he isn’t signing anything before seeking counsel and that he has until November 8th to respond to CIG, so it’s possible that news of this added obstacle may unfurl further in the next few days.

Yea an NDA outside of the US in this function might as well not even exist with how useless NDA's are in the world. Inside the US however, it should be noted that an NDA is null and void when a crime has/is being committed. So we will see where this ends up.

And it was established that CIG is committing a felony when exactly? I don't even understand why they would want him to sign one. It's not like one more guy on the dogpile ragging on CIG is going to make a lick of difference at this point. If anything, this just moves them even further into a worse light. How the fuck can such an incompetent group of people raise this sort of money? Boggles...the...mind.

echoing a previous post. This must be an american, here in europe that nda wouldnt mean shit if a person was forced to get a refund.

I thought they'd had stopped offering refunds.

VaranDragon wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 10:42:
Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

Maybe he is a wealthy oil tycoon from Dubai and is asking for a $500,000,000 refund?

VaranDragon wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 10:42:
Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

Well the important bit.

When seeking advice from other Redditors (as well as planning on getting a free legal consultation on the matter), some replies pointed out that using an NDA before receiving a refund may be against UK law and EU law. Further, a look through the refunds FAQ and its terms of service don’t mention an NDA requirement.

FeralSquirrels did point out that he isn’t signing anything before seeking counsel and that he has until November 8th to respond to CIG, so it’s possible that news of this added obstacle may unfurl further in the next few days.

Yea an NDA outside of the US in this function might as well not even exist with how useless NDA's are in the world. Inside the US however, it should be noted that an NDA is null and void when a crime has/is being committed. So we will see where this ends up.

some people also are pissed that their bought ships are nerfed in comparison to some of the new ships.

lol what a scam

VaranDragon wrote on Oct 31, 2024, 10:42:
Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

According to the pertinent Reddit thread in response to that same question (direct quote):

Less than £1k and nope.

Absolute bog standard backer.

My only claim to fame is that I was "there" for the lamp stream :)

^ the "nope" is in reply to a question about "special privileges" that would be revoked or potentially covered by the NDA like the BTS info/stuff that some very high level backers seem to have gotten.

Without clicking on the link, does the article mention how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars the player wants to refund? When the really big whales are starting to turn against you, you are pretty much screwed. (Or so I hope)

The cult is real. Guy better check his life insurance policies as well...