Cutter, do you really think that especially Trump and Musk would tax the rich and pay higher wages to the workers? Trump and his family, who bought cheap materials in China for his companies while telling all other people how important it is to buy "made in USA"? No way. The billionaires and millionaires will use the next government to put a little more money into their pockets and take it from the masses. But then again, I have to say that the Dems have always done so, too, because even their idea of how to share the profits is pro rich. The Dems are just a bit less extreme but also know who is paying them and their rallies. The Dems were simply a bit more clever and subtle but in the end, it is all about "How to take the money the others got or/and earn?"

Whatever. I am pretty old and can only hope that the next world war won't start before I am gone. I have 0% trust in any REAL change happening or that mankind suddenly evolves into an intelligent species. Nevertheless, I hope to be wrong about that.

And now, back to gaming and solving smaller problems in real life. I doubt we can achieve world peace in our forum.

El Pit wrote on Oct 19, 2024, 08:34:

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 22:42:

Saboth wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 20:11:
Some of were shopping for appliances when Trump's Tariffs hit in his first term. Prices went up several hundred dollars almost overnight, across the board.

Sounds like a good reason for you to support local manufacturing and blue-collar jobs.

Sure, just pay the workers higher wages to afford the higher prices of the products. But this would increase the prices even more, but even higher wages will fix this, but OH NO this would lead to even higher prices, so about even higher wages? And so on. Selling more expensive products on the global market will also be rather difficult.

Take the money from the already vastly overpaid executive class and shareholders. There's more than enough to go around, it's just a tiny percentage of people hoarding it all like fucking dragons. I don't have a problem with people getting rich. I do when it's done by not paying their fair share - or any at all - or worse still actually get tax subsidies on top of not paying taxes. Trump killed the TPP and you should count your lucky fucking stars for that. Hillary wanted to ratify it. Never forget that. That would have been the final nail in the coffin of the American worker. Tariffs are good. It makes those rich parasites move production here. America was never stronger or better for most then when it had strong protectionism and unions. People bitch about bringing manufacturing home. Tariffs are how it's done. Short term pain for long term gain. The Dems want to hollow out what's left of American manufacturing.

The Flying Penguin wrote on Oct 19, 2024, 09:02:
It baffles me how someone who actually was president for 4 years, either doesn't understand how tariffs work, or purposely misstates how tariffs work.

Trump keeps claiming, in various versions, that either foreign governments or the foreign companies pay the tariffs. That is just not true.

The importer pays the tariff, that's a simple fact.

But then again, I'm still waiting to see that check from Mexico...

Trying to teach Trump facts is like trying to teach a brick algebra.

It baffles me how someone who actually was president for 4 years, either doesn't understand how tariffs work, or purposely misstates how tariffs work.

Trump keeps claiming, in various versions, that either foreign governments or the foreign companies pay the tariffs. That is just not true.

The importer pays the tariff, that's a simple fact.

But then again, I'm still waiting to see that check from Mexico...

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 22:42:

Saboth wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 20:11:
Some of were shopping for appliances when Trump's Tariffs hit in his first term. Prices went up several hundred dollars almost overnight, across the board.

Sounds like a good reason for you to support local manufacturing and blue-collar jobs.

Sure, just pay the workers higher wages to afford the higher prices of the products. But this would increase the prices even more, but even higher wages will fix this, but OH NO this would lead to even higher prices, so about even higher wages? And so on. Selling more expensive products on the global market will also be rather difficult.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 22:42:

Saboth wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 20:11:
Some of were shopping for appliances when Trump's Tariffs hit in his first term. Prices went up several hundred dollars almost overnight, across the board.

Sounds like a good reason for you to support local manufacturing and blue-collar jobs.

Sounds like you've never worked in manufacturing and don't realize it would take decades to get up and running here. Decades. We literally don't have the workforce or infrastructure. Capitalism sent that away decades ago.

Trumps tariffs wouldn’t hurt trump. Primarily because they will blame democrats for inevitable price increases. Secondly because his cult has been tuned into not doing even a moment of critical thinking to even question why prices increase.

Having a multi-mllionare as a leader is never, ever going to help lower and working classes: it will only hurt them even more, leading to more crimes committed.

Saboth wrote on Oct 18, 2024, 20:11:
Some of were shopping for appliances when Trump's Tariffs hit in his first term. Prices went up several hundred dollars almost overnight, across the board.

Sounds like a good reason for you to support local manufacturing and blue-collar jobs.

that's for sure going help the gaming industry.

Some of were shopping for appliances when Trump's Tariffs hit in his first term. Prices went up several hundred dollars almost overnight, across the board.