Out of the Blue [Oct 14, 2024, 10:57 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Today is Columbus Day here in the U.S., and apparently elsewhere, as the
Wikipedia explains this
is celebrated in a bunch of other countries under various names. But the name
of the occasion here is also in flux, as it is also now Indigenous Peoples' Day for
many as part of the backlash of what can at the very least be called the
excesses of the Age of Exploration that lead to the Age of Imperialism. This
might explain why I feel this snuck up on me this year, as it doesn't seem to be
as prominent as it once was, despite still being a Federal Holiday.
Also, happy Thanksgiving to Canada, where this is celebrated on the second Monday in October. I like how the U.S. version falls on Thursday, but mid-October is a much better time for a celebration of fall than late November, which is too close to the holiday season, not to mention my birthday. So good on you, Canada. I'll try and hunt down some pumpkin pie to celebrate.
Also, happy Thanksgiving to Canada, where this is celebrated on the second Monday in October. I like how the U.S. version falls on Thursday, but mid-October is a much better time for a celebration of fall than late November, which is too close to the holiday season, not to mention my birthday. So good on you, Canada. I'll try and hunt down some pumpkin pie to celebrate.
Celebratory Round-up
Thanks Ant, Neutronbeam, and Max.Story
Science
- ‘Phenomenal’ tool sequences DNA and tracks proteins — without cracking cells open - Nature.
- Colossal snake measuring over 50 feet long found in India - The Brighter Side of News.
- 'Islands' of regularity discovered in the famously chaotic three-body problem - Phys.org.
- Can a Supplement Really Help Control Your Pesky Eye Floaters? - ScienceAlert.
Media
- VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 153. Thanks The Flying Penguin.
Follow-up
- Tea And Coffee May Affect Your Heart Health, New Study Says - HuffPost UK Life.
- SpaceX catches returning rocket in mid-air, turning a fanciful idea into reality - Ars Technica.
The Funnies
MrCharm42 wrote on Oct 15, 2024, 07:06:Sepharo wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 21:40:
The history is already there, you can't reset history.
Would you argue for the unilateral dissolving of the sovereign tribes?
I don't see any logical connection between what I wrote and your question. The Native American tribes that I am familiar with could easily be defined as a freely associating group of people with certain property rights (since AFAIK, most don't require a genetic component or a fixed, documented family tree to be accepted into the tribe).
I do not support forced dissolution of freely associating groups, and the Constitution explicitly bars that anyway.
All tribe membership does is provide a certain political status within legal frameworks; it does not make someone morally superior to anyone else. If you want to argue that the US Govt should live up to specific treaties they signed, that's a legal argument. You seem to be mixing in a moral argument with a legal one, and don't seem to be able to separate them.
This question was in relation to the existing "extra" rights of the indigenous people of the Americas.
Should they not have those extra rights? The ones that are granted because of their recognized tribal sovereignty?
You said you can't "fix" history... well, the tribes have been considered sovereign in some capacity for 300+ years. Should that be fixed?
as an aside, while the United States considers their native American tribes sovereign (it's complicated), Canada does not consider their First Nation tribes sovereign.
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