Out of the Blue

Today is Columbus Day here in the U.S., and apparently elsewhere, as the Wikipedia explains this is celebrated in a bunch of other countries under various names. But the name of the occasion here is also in flux, as it is also now Indigenous Peoples' Day for many as part of the backlash of what can at the very least be called the excesses of the Age of Exploration that lead to the Age of Imperialism. This might explain why I feel this snuck up on me this year, as it doesn't seem to be as prominent as it once was, despite still being a Federal Holiday.

Also, happy Thanksgiving to Canada, where this is celebrated on the second Monday in October. I like how the U.S. version falls on Thursday, but mid-October is a much better time for a celebration of fall than late November, which is too close to the holiday season, not to mention my birthday. So good on you, Canada. I'll try and hunt down some pumpkin pie to celebrate.

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Re: OotB: Happy Holiday?
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Re: OotB: Happy Holiday? Oct 14, 2024, 22:21
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 22:20:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 22:18:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 22:17:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 22:15:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 22:14:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 21:41:
You were definitely the one who brought up indigenous rights. I get that you want to talk about universal human rights... but that doesn't change you were the one that brought up indigenous rights.

Yet again, no, I did not.
Yes, you did...
and in your very first post:
It's also why I am not popular with people who want to push for the rights of "indigenous" people because the data I can bring to the table shows that they are not, and never have been, indigenous.

Way to yet again ignore everything else you don't want to answer.

I am asking this sincerely: were you never taught what quotes were for when referencing a concept or topic?

You already know the answer to your unnecessary litmus test.

It's not unnecessary. Either you do or you don't.

I am really giving you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't being intellectually dishonest even though you've given every indicator that you are.

So...

It's also why I am not popular with people who want to push for the rights of "indigenous" people because the data I can bring to the table shows that they are not, and never have been, indigenous.

What did you mean by that?
How can indigenous rights be separated from "local politics" if the entire concept is predicated on special rights being granted to indigenous by the non-indigenous government?
That's what you have a problem with right? Indigenous rights... "some are more equal than others" etc.?

What do you propose should be done regarding the existing situation of indigenous rights?
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