Prez wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 20:11:
It usually comes down to how you define things. Most of what you are referencing are not true mass migrations as I was defining it if the original society continues to exist. My grandmother came into America via Ellis Island when she was 4 years old along with thousands of other Italian migrants. Italy continued to exist however. I could be completely wrong in how I have been using "mass migration" but communication is built on understanding what a person is saying more than demanding the exact use of a term. Correct my mistakes by all means but try to understand my larger point as well.

All right, I can play ball with that. What defines "original society" then? Something static or something that changes but may retain some core of a cultural identity? I ask because when my ancestors migrated to the US, the countries they came from are nothing at all like the countries with the same name that exist today. My grandfather was very fluent in Irish, naturally. It was his milk language. So I learned that from him. Yet when I went to see my cousins in Ireland decades back and spoke what I had learned, they chuckled and politely informed me that no one spoke that dialect anymore. I am sure were either my great-grandfather or grandfather alive today, neither would recognize the Ireland of today. So does the original society they knew count or today's society?

I get your larger point and I am disagreeing with it. The most recent hard evidence I can find is from 2020 just prior to the pandemic. ~280,600,000 people migrated globally in that year prior to the pandemic. That is the very definition of "mass migration". If we got up in to the billion or more figure, that would be "endemic migration". That's why I'm stating that mass migration happens all the time.

By the way, this back and forth between you and I is happening on that theoretical park bench you mentioned previously. I am neither upset nor angry with you or at all. I just like a good, hard, discussion and one that does not contain ad hominems.