Re: OotB: Happy Holiday?
Oct 14, 2024, 20:11
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 19:51:
Prez wrote on Oct 14, 2024, 19:27:
On the topic of "Indigenous" day, while it has never been officially confirmed that I know of, the day is appropriately named when considering that it is the first time in the modern age following the most recent occurrence of colonialism under which modern America and other continents were settled (most historians agree that this started some time in the 15th century). I am not an expert in human history but I don't think that there have been any mass human migrations since then. So as far as modern society is concerned, these people were indigenous. That's how I understand it anyway, and I believe why this is appropriate.
I am going to suggest, in a very polite and affable way, that you look more in to modern human history. There have been several mass migrations since the 15th century. For example, once the Ottoman Empire collapsed, you saw a massive migration of historically eastern Balkan peoples migrating west since the Ottomans no longer held them in the east. Look at how many millions of Irish, Italian, Hispanic, and Asian peoples migrated to the US starting in the 19th century. Look at how many people are migrating from Central and South America to North America in this century.
That's the main thrust of my point. Humans are migrating constantly. Whether it is on the same continent or from one continent to another. That's why the idea of an "indigenous" people in the Common Era is not scientifically accurate. It's a political and emotional belief. Not a factual one.
It usually comes down to how you define things. Most of what you are referencing are not true mass migrations as I was defining it if the original society continues to exist. My grandmother came into America via Ellis Island when she was 4 years old along with thousands of other Italian migrants. Italy continued to exist however. I could be completely wrong in how I have been using "mass migration" but communication is built on understanding what a person is saying more than demanding the exact use of a term. Correct my mistakes by all means but try to understand my larger point as well.
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Re: OotB: Happy Holiday?
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