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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 9, 2024, 01:27
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 9, 2024, 01:27
Oct 9, 2024, 01:27
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 20:44:
you're not who this guy means.

You're the guy I'm talking about with your ongoing usage of "capital G Gamer".
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 22:22
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 22:22
Oct 8, 2024, 22:22
 Prez
 
Those are called assholes. His company is run by thieves and abusive pieces of shit who face no consequences. He doesn't get to lecture anyone as far as I'm concerned.
"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance, is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 20:44
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 20:44
Oct 8, 2024, 20:44
 
It's literally what they want to be called and what they claim others aren't.

It isn't a broad brush. If you never sent a death threat because there's a female in a game isn't attractive enough, you're not who this guy means.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 20:33
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 20:33
Oct 8, 2024, 20:33
 Prez
 
Funny thing is that the general stereotype of what a "gamer" is (neck beard, incel, lives in Mom's basement, jerks off to Waifus) is a person I have literally never met in my entire life. I have met A LOT of gamers, and they are as different from one another as anyone can be. I'm not sure that I have ever met two gamers that were exactly, or even a lot alike.
"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance, is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 20:24
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 20:24
Oct 8, 2024, 20:24
 
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 19:58:
...You're perpetuating an already inaccurate narrative that if you are a gamer then you fit a certain stereotype...

The thing that cracks me up about that stereotype is that I have been gaming since 1977. Yet I clearly do not fit the stereotype. I like wrenching on engines, driving fast trucks, going out shooting, trekking, hiking, camping, being a part-time lumberjack, and bunch of other things that would be labeled "manly". Yet I game as frequently as time allows.

The stereotype really emerged I'd say in, oh, about 1995 when "gamers" became a demographic to market toward. Until then, we were all just computer nerds.Jolt Cola and Bawls really started that whole shebang.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 19:58
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 19:58
Oct 8, 2024, 19:58
 Prez
 
I've always been a "middle of the road" kind of guy. My enemies might call me wishy-washy or a cowardly fence-sitter. But I look at myself as annoyingly fair. I say "annoyingly" because I'll emphatically agree with you when you point out shitty behavior, but then I am just as fast to point out that you're doing the same thing that your opponents do, just from the opposite extreme. Like I am about to now.

Specifying a difference between Gamer and gamer to me is exactly like a right-wing crazy using the term "woke". Of course you will disagree, but the similarities are obvious to me. The point you are trying to make by your use of a confusing and insulting distinction that to anyone else seems dumb completely dilutes any kind of reasoned argument that you were going to make. You're perpetuating an already inaccurate narrative that if you are a gamer then you fit a certain stereotype. If you're a gamer who wants Ubisoft to suffer humiliation and failure then you are an incel and don't touch grass. There's nothing that I can do to change it, but a man of your intellectual might should (in my opinion) refrain from inelegant and grossly inaccurate labels and make an intelligent point. You more or less did, but I was distracted by the leftist version of "woke". That was my two cents, that really isn't even worth two cents. Maybe it's in confederate money.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 19:38
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 19:38
Oct 8, 2024, 19:38
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 19:37:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 17:22:
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 16:58:
Honestly, being a bit slow these days I didn't even understand what he was saying.

It's a holdover from the Gamergate days and "Gamers are dead" articles.
People twisted themselves in knots to explain why some of the gaming press wanted to get rid of the word "gamer".
This was their internal compromise I guess.... capital G and lower case g gamers.
It's really really stupid.

I'm going to disagree.
During Gamergate, those people really tried to gatekeep who is and is not a gamer. And that is where it came from. Some people here will do it, they'll talk about what gamers want. There's no monolithic gamer, but there's a group of incels that likes to say they're the only real gamers. And they're the ones review bombing and sending death threats.

And they're the ones he's talking about.

So just say that. They don't get to monopolize "Gamer" and their opponents don't get to use it as a slur.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 19:37
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 19:37
Oct 8, 2024, 19:37
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 17:22:
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 16:58:
Honestly, being a bit slow these days I didn't even understand what he was saying.

It's a holdover from the Gamergate days and "Gamers are dead" articles.
People twisted themselves in knots to explain why some of the gaming press wanted to get rid of the word "gamer".
This was their internal compromise I guess.... capital G and lower case g gamers.
It's really really stupid.

I'm going to disagree.
During Gamergate, those people really tried to gatekeep who is and is not a gamer. And that is where it came from. Some people here will do it, they'll talk about what gamers want. There's no monolithic gamer, but there's a group of incels that likes to say they're the only real gamers. And they're the ones review bombing and sending death threats.

And they're the ones he's talking about. The people adamant that they're the only real gamers and any game not directed specifically at their needs and wants is a bad game that deserves punishment.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 17:22
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 17:22
Oct 8, 2024, 17:22
 
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 16:58:
Honestly, being a bit slow these days I didn't even understand what he was saying.

It's a holdover from the Gamergate days and "Gamers are dead" articles.
People twisted themselves in knots to explain why some of the gaming press wanted to get rid of the word "gamer".
This was their internal compromise I guess.... capital G and lower case g gamers.
It's really really stupid.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 16:58
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 16:58
Oct 8, 2024, 16:58
 Prez
 
Honestly, being a bit slow these days I didn't even understand what he was saying.
"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance, is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 15:14
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 15:14
Oct 8, 2024, 15:14
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 09:59:
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 09:40:
Ah, our resident jolly rancher and purveyor of love and positivity Slick is here. I didn't immediately see his oh-so balanced and reasonable pearls of wisdom because I have him blocked. But I think we figured out which developer he works at...

I don't think he's entirely wrong. Gamers suck. I do not think most people here are Gamers, they're gamers.
Gamers are the Gamergaters that made that Woke or Not spreadsheet I so love.

Please stop with this stupid capital G lowercase G shit.
Gamers play games and self identify as gamers.
You don't have to be a gamer, but can also be a gamer without worrying about what other gamers do.
The individual, the culture, are not responsible for every other individual.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 10:31
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 10:31
Oct 8, 2024, 10:31
 Prez
 
With opinions like his it's not so much than I flatly disagree with him but rather how unhinged one gets in their vitriol towards gamers. It's a bit much, and it would be funny except I picture him purple in the face with a vein in his head about to burst with how much rage he has. I don't want that to happen. Mostly...

As an aside, I'm a bit surprised that despite being laden with personal attacks his comment wasn't deleted. I personally don't care, he can call me or whomever what he likes - it's no skin off my nose. It's just that less inflammatory posts have been removed so it seems odd. Is it simply because he repeatedly insulted all of us instead of just one of us?

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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 09:59
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 09:59
Oct 8, 2024, 09:59
 
Prez wrote on Oct 8, 2024, 09:40:
Ah, our resident jolly rancher and purveyor of love and positivity Slick is here. I didn't immediately see his oh-so balanced and reasonable pearls of wisdom because I have him blocked. But I think we figured out which developer he works at...

I don't think he's entirely wrong. Gamers suck. I do not think most people here are Gamers, they're gamers.
Gamers are the Gamergaters that made that Woke or Not spreadsheet I so love.

But also, Directors of Monetization suck. The individuals maybe not as much, I can't say, but the task... no real surprise I don't think I play a single game with microtransactions. Certainly none with subscriptions. As an old, I wouldn't get any value out of it.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 09:40
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 09:40
Oct 8, 2024, 09:40
 Prez
 
Ah, our resident jolly rancher and purveyor of love and positivity Slick is here. I didn't immediately see his oh-so balanced and reasonable pearls of wisdom because I have him blocked. But I think we figured out which developer he works at...
"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance, is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 8, 2024, 09:10
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 8, 2024, 09:10
Oct 8, 2024, 09:10
 
Slick wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 11:25:
Y'all need to take a long hard look in the mirror when a post from WaltC is the most grounded, thoughtful, and level-headed in this thread.

After a genuinely heartfelt WTF post from this dev, you're all bending over backwards to prove him right. That you're nothing but a bucket of cunts. Seriously, some of the comments in here... just blow my mind. The level of toxicity and vitriol towards a game publisher... that employs 20,000 artists and engineers making the art that is beloved by literally millions of people.

Game companies have people who work in monetization, is this really new to y'all? Guess what chucklefucks, those 20,000 employees gotta eat. Ubi pushes out large-scale productions, regularly. This requires sometimes a dozen studios working on a title simultaneously worldwide. They can't all be as lean as Valve who only employs a few dozen real game devs. Not all players in this industry have an infinite money fountain...

So kindly take a step back, and then fuck your own face. All you shits are what's wrong with "gaming culture".
The irony of your comment coupled with your signature to a video link titled, "How Brands Manipulate You To Be Loyal" is palpable.

The sentiment here is that the company is doing, "bad" things and so people want to see it punished via revenue loss or even bankruptcy. Until there are painful lessons learned in the gaming industry by Ubisoft and others, those crappy practices will continue. Yes it sucks that some devs will lose their jobs and likely many who had little to no fault in Ubisoft's poor financial performance. This is a typical thing for the industry though unfortunately and on top of that, they likely have too many devs as is so the bleeding will be large when the hammer falls. The game company I worked for a long time ago no longer exists and they deserved what they got for doing the same exploitive things.

I blame the customers too though as they/we supported this market. It wasn't such an issue when the gaming, "skindustry" co-existed with actual, quality games being made. Now with revenue growth being the primary focus for many game companies, game quality has receded to a level people are finding unacceptable and they are speaking up. It's not that making a profit is bad but the methodology used by the companies often is. I'll paraphrase the recent article about what a former Blizzard employee said about his former CEO, Mike Morhaime, to sum up the problem: He was a money guy but he wasn't a money first guy.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 7, 2024, 21:28
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 7, 2024, 21:28
Oct 7, 2024, 21:28
 Prez
 
I'm probably about as far from a snowflake as you can get. But I also know how to be polite and civil. The things that matter far more than proving to other online 12 year olds how tough you are also what help keep discussions from becoming e-peen measuring contests and insult fests. What you mean matters about a tenth of what is inferred by what you say, rightly or wrongly. If you actually want to communicate, you adapt what you are saying so that what you actually mean is heard correctly by the people who you are ostensibly trying to communicate with. If you just want to score points for your team in the culture war, you do what all of the right-wing hardasses do and talk about how uncompromising you are as if that is a positive trait and you call everyone a snowflake.

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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 7, 2024, 17:21
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 7, 2024, 17:21
Oct 7, 2024, 17:21
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 17:18:
Do you know what's hilarious about people using "snowflake" as a pejorative?

It's from a book, written by a gay man, used to illustrate the fragility of the male ego and the toxicity that stems from that fragility.

And it's usually the person that's offended using it, like the person offended by blue hair claiming it's actually others that are offended.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 7, 2024, 17:18
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 7, 2024, 17:18
Oct 7, 2024, 17:18
 
Do you know what's hilarious about people using "snowflake" as a pejorative?

It's from a book, written by a gay man, used to illustrate the fragility of the male ego and the toxicity that stems from that fragility.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 7, 2024, 16:14
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 7, 2024, 16:14
Oct 7, 2024, 16:14
 
Prez wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 12:03:
Beamer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 11:44:
intermarer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 11:22:
Beamer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 10:15:
intermarer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 09:36:
REMOVED

Did this strike you as an intelligent post made from experience, or a kneejerk reaction to a bunch of inflated and misleading talking points you saw on social media?
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Just sharing my opinion...

Yes. Opinions tell you a lot about a man.
to many people, your opinion here basically said "I hope that they fire everyone except straight white people."
That is on them, and is in no way what I wrote, or meant. I don't see why I should have to tippytoe around these snowflakes that hunt for things to get offended by.

Anyway, this was my third time getting censored here one Bluesnews. I've come to realize what an echo chamber, safe space it has become and won't let the door hit me on my way out.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Oct 7, 2024, 12:03
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Re: Quoteworthy Oct 7, 2024, 12:03
Oct 7, 2024, 12:03
 Prez
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 11:44:
intermarer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 11:22:
Beamer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 10:15:
intermarer wrote on Oct 7, 2024, 09:36:
REMOVED

Did this strike you as an intelligent post made from experience, or a kneejerk reaction to a bunch of inflated and misleading talking points you saw on social media?
?

Just sharing my opinion...

Yes. Opinions tell you a lot about a man.

Your opinions can come across possibly different than perhaps you intended them. For example, to many people, your opinion here basically said "I hope that they fire everyone except straight white people." Unless you are an unapologetic bigot, I am assuming that this is not what you intended to say? When giving an opinion, it's helpful to understand how that opinion might sound to others.

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