Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2024, 15:18:
I think I mentioned it here before, but I am a member of my local Moms for Liberty Facebook group.

Well, this topic came up, because our state is talking about banning phones in classrooms. I would have expected the "think of the children and their education!" group to be in favor. Nope. Not by a longshot.

Their arguments were basically three-fold:

1) "If there's an emergency or a shooting, I need to be able to get in touch with my child!" This I kind of get, but if the emergency is on your end, you can reach them the same way we always did. If the emergency is a shooting, what good is the phone, really? This feels like a much larger issue we shouldn't be compromising education for

2) "My child needs their phone so they can record their teacher if the teacher starts trying to teach them the wrong thing or turn them trans." I mean, if you're convinced your child is going to be turned trans by this teacher, or otherwise trust the curriculum so little that you think your child needs a phone to record it, why are you sending your child there? This argument relies upon bad faith arguments from fear-mongerers and has no justification in reality

3) "The state can take my phone when they pay for my phone, but since I pay for it I decide when and where it can be used!" Ok, sure, moron. You also bought your kid their playstation, can they use it in English class? You bought them that hunting rifle, can they take it to gym class? This is easily the dumbest argument I've seen, with absolutely no connection to logic or reason and entirely about emotional outrage at the government telling them what to do, even though the government is always telling us what to do and that restrictions on what can be done where is a big part of what makes the US a successful nation.