TikTok says US ban would have ‘staggering’ impact on free speechYes, because Free Speech was not a concept until social media showed up. Please, like TikTok all you want, but don't believe this utter idiocy.
Prez wrote on Sep 17, 2024, 15:07:Maybe less about not knowing the right, but about how it applies in a business context. Seems that people just assume it applies to private institutions the same as it does public ones
Free speech might be the most misunderstood concept concerning the rights of the average citizen. With constant bullshit like this and the garbage Musk spews on Xitter, it's not hard to see why.
jdreyer wrote on Sep 17, 2024, 20:17:I've watched a YT short. I've never watched a TikTok video.
People would have to migrate to YouTube Shorts. The horror of that eventuality is more horrific to contemplate.
1badmf wrote on Sep 17, 2024, 21:50:National security absolutely trumps free speech in a case such as this. I have argued previously that the government has to make a legal case proving a considerable national security risk. When the company is using a Chinese-made algorithm that is a very big red flag at the very least. Propaganda warfare has been a very important tactic since at least the First World War. Both the East and West spent a very large amount of resources (and in some cases lives) during the Cold War on propaganda supporting their respective sides. The burden of proof does lay with the government to prove a legitimate security risk exists because TikTok filed a suit so this isn't just a case of the government banning a company because they don't like them. I for one think that TikTok should absolutely be banned, but that's my opinion. A US company trying to operate in China certainly can't avail themselves of a right to free speech there.
i believe it's a little more nuanced than most of you think. should the government be able to ban any company who's product it doesn't like. i think that's for sure a free speech issue.
that said, the constitution has never been unlimited. if they can prove that tiktok is a real danger then yes, ban them. the bill of rights has always stopped before the pillar of public safety.