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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 12:56
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 12:56
Sep 5, 2024, 12:56
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How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 13:21
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 13:21
Sep 5, 2024, 13:21
 
Keelhauling? They don't do that anymore I assume.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 13:49
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 13:49
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Haha no. They banned that practice long before I was in. I'm remembering that the captain had enormous disciplinary power. He could confine you to quarters (either aboard ship or in the barracks), reduce your pay to half for up to 6 months, and put you on bread and water rations for 3 months. Trust me, you didn't want to be on bread and water and confined to quarters for 3 months. I had to stand watch over someone who had that punishment. That's before the Court Marshal, which you have you making little rocks out of big rocks in military prison for a long time. No parole and no appeal in military prisons.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 13:50
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 13:50
Sep 5, 2024, 13:50
 
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 12:56:
How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.

Were you an officer? I can't speak for the Navy, but in the Army when you fuck up, they make an example out of you, unless you're an officer, in which case, fuck it, whatever dude. From my perspective anyways as an enlisted Soldier.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 13:57
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 13:57
Sep 5, 2024, 13:57
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I was enlisted Navy like she is. I was an E-5. Before demotion she was an E-8, a senior chief. They weren't officers but they sometimes did get a lighter sentence. That was 25 years ago so I don't know what has changed, but it probably has.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:00
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 14:00
Sep 5, 2024, 14:00
 
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 12:56:
How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.

Guarantee she got billeted out to some ass-end backwater post and will remain there until she is voluntold to retire.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:02
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 14:02
Sep 5, 2024, 14:02
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 14:00:
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 12:56:
How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.

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Really? REALLY?!

But as to your response, considering how much of a security risk she has proven herself to be, she would be lucky to get assigned as leading enlisted mess hall custodian.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:10
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Sep 5, 2024, 14:10
 
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 14:02:
Really? REALLY?!

But as to your response, considering how much of a security risk she has proven herself to be, she would be lucky to get out as leading enlisted mess hall custodian.

<Grins> Really.

As a CPO/E-7? Nah. The Navy is likely to ship her off to Milton or some other hole doing printer maintenance (given her education) under the Manning Control Authority.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:17
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 14:17
Sep 5, 2024, 14:17
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Can I be like Darth Vader and alter the deal? I will not post pictures of me in my bunny slippers unless you join this year's sportsball pickems group. Yeah! Got him!!
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:20
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 14:20
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I interviewed with Frontier earlier in the year. I had really high hopes, as it would have been a huge increase in responsibility for me, and after the call the hiring manager said I ticked 4 out of the 5 boxes he wanted with a 5 out of 5, but only a 3 out of 5 on the 5th. Sounded good. From there, they went totally cold on me, with the very friendly recruiter giving a terse response when I asked about an update.

I would like to believe this was what caused that, not anything I did.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:29
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Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 14:17:
Can I be like Darth Vader and alter the deal? I will not post pictures of me in my bunny slippers unless you join this year's sportsball pickems group. Yeah! Got him!!

Nope. However, I do have a plan for after you post said modeling pics of the cute, fuzzy, pink bunny slippers. I mean that sounds nefarious but it isn't.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:33
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 14:33
Sep 5, 2024, 14:33
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Dammit. Me, by big mouth, and my integrity. 😞
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 14:40
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I've come full circle. My internet service was sold by Verizon to Frontier several years ago, and now Verizon is buying all of it back
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 16:00
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 16:00
Sep 5, 2024, 16:00
 
Why didn't she get a dishonorable discharge? Is it because she's female or the military is facing a shortage of personnel? And I mean not just because she did it in the first place, but demonstrated zero remorse over it.

Marrero was relieved in late 2023 after repeatedly misleading and lying to her ship’s command about the Wi-Fi network

In the private sector you'd be fired with cause for shit like that. Hell, people get fired all the time for a hell of a lot less. If the worst she suffered is a demotion she'll do it again, and so will her co-conspirators. Something you cannot afford in the military especially.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 19:14
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 19:14
Sep 5, 2024, 19:14
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Cutter wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 16:00:
Why didn't she get a dishonorable discharge? Is it because she's female or the military is facing a shortage of personnel? And I mean not just because she did it in the first place, but demonstrated zero remorse over it.

Marrero was relieved in late 2023 after repeatedly misleading and lying to her ship’s command about the Wi-Fi network

In the private sector you'd be fired with cause for shit like that. Hell, people get fired all the time for a hell of a lot less. If the worst she suffered is a demotion she'll do it again, and so will her co-conspirators. Something you cannot afford in the military especially.

The military is not letting you off that easy. Once you're in, you have to commit a very serious crime for them to immediately discharge you. You'll probably wish they had dishonorably discharged you by the time they are done with you.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 19:39
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 19:39
Sep 5, 2024, 19:39
 
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 19:14:
Cutter wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 16:00:
Why didn't she get a dishonorable discharge? Is it because she's female or the military is facing a shortage of personnel? And I mean not just because she did it in the first place, but demonstrated zero remorse over it.

Marrero was relieved in late 2023 after repeatedly misleading and lying to her ship’s command about the Wi-Fi network

In the private sector you'd be fired with cause for shit like that. Hell, people get fired all the time for a hell of a lot less. If the worst she suffered is a demotion she'll do it again, and so will her co-conspirators. Something you cannot afford in the military especially.

Well I hope so. You could never put a person like that in a position of trust ever again. I think cleaning the latrines on a laundry ship for the rest of her time would be a good punishment.



The military is not letting you off that easy. Once you're in, you have to commit a very serious crime for them to immediately discharge you. You'll probably wish they had dishonorably discharged you by the time they are done with you.
"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 20:35
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 5, 2024, 20:35
Sep 5, 2024, 20:35
 
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 12:56:
How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.

was this kind of extra curricular fuckery common when you were in? seems like someone in a leadership position got a little carried away with the disciplinary leeway they can usually get away with. but lying to superiors multiple times is clearly crossing a lne.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 5, 2024, 20:46
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1badmf wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 20:35:
Prez wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 12:56:
How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi

She got off VERY lightly compared to what I was used to. But the Navy doesn't have to disclose the full punishment, so she might be suffering more serious repercussions that they weren't required to disclose under the FIA.

was this kind of extra curricular fuckery common when you were in? seems like someone in a leadership position got a little carried away with the disciplinary leeway they can usually get away with. but lying to superiors multiple times is clearly crossing a lne.

Submarine life was not easy. Lots of guys would kind of snap underway. I would see a lot of violations because of that. Other than that it was about average going by typical Navy fuckery. I remember one or two of the "compromising security" type violations like this.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 6, 2024, 00:17
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1badmf wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 20:35:
was this kind of extra curricular fuckery common when you were in?

You didn't ask me but in my experience...oh fuck yes. Unless the extracurricular fuckery was flagrant or egregious and/or interfered with you performing your duties, it was quietly tolerated. At least shoreside. Now if you had a chief with a lot of hair on their ass, you weren't getting away with shit. Most of the E-7s and above that I ran in to were pretty chill but I generally did my job, wasn't a fuckup, and didn't make their lives any more difficult than it already was.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 6, 2024, 06:15
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What kind of physical requirements need to be met for an enlisted man (or woman) actively serving in the U.S. Navy? Reason why I'm asking is because in that article's extremely unflattering picture of the Chief in question, she actually looks overweight, if not obese. Are the physical requirements for sailors generally low enough for them to be in poor physical shape?
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