Uwe Boll Postal Movie Crowdfunding Goes Awry

This now-cancelled Indiegogo Campaign is a trainwreck we missed when it launched a few days ago to finance a new Postal movie from "filmmaker" Uwe Boll. The fundraiser was launched by Boll's podcast partner Gary Otto, and a video from Boll promotes the campaign. Prior game adaptations Boll crapped out over the years took advantage of German tax credits, but since this loophole is now closed, financing a new film with OPM would have to take advantage of someone else. This is where things get weird, as PC Gamer explains that all of this was apparently done with no regard to ownership of the IP and without the knowledge or permission of rights holder Running With Scissors. You may need to shower after reading the details:
Problem was, of course, that neither Boll nor Otto seemed to have informed Postal's devs at Running With Scissors about it, and they were more than a little baffled. In an update posted on Facebook and shared to Twitter, RWS CEO Vince Desiderio wrote that "The Official position of RWS is we DO NOT support this fundraising effort. I have no fuckin idea who Gary Otto, the project owner is. No one has contacted us about this effort, and it's a major concern that he clearly states he can use any funds raised for another project."

That last bit refers to a note from Otto that—if the campaign failed to raise the requisite $2.5 million, or some other completely unforeseeable obstacle cropped up—the money would instead go towards California Fried Movie, a sequel to Boll's first film German Fried Movie, which currently has 1.5 stars out of 10 on IMDB. "I’d like everyone to know that the money in this campaign will go towards either POSTAL 2 if the goal is met," wrote Otto in the campaign's backer discussion section, "OR the concept will get redeveloped into 'California Fried Movie' with much of the same content."

Oh, and all the while Boll was posting on Twitter that $2.5 million wouldn't actually be enough to make the film the way he wanted to. "If we collect 2.5 mio [sic]," he wrote "I will come up with another 2.5 mio...to make it proper." Boll offered no insight as to where or how he would magic up another $2.5 million for a sequel to a film everybody hated.
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ZeroPike1 wrote on Sep 5, 2024, 13:28:
Kxmode wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 15:20:
It reads like a pyramid scheme. I will pay you back in full once somebody else pays me the amount you need.
Yeah, that line about "you will get a refund in full even if Indigo takes a percentage" sounds like a total mess. They’re basically saying they’ll refund everyone in full and cover Indigo’s cut themselves, which doesn’t seem sustainable, especially if they’re relying on strangers to invest in the project.
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Kxmode wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 15:20:
"we can’t cancel the project ... everybody who has pledged will get a refund once we get the funds you will get a refund in full even if indigo takes a percentage. I will still refund you the full amount, and I’m sorry that it’s come to this."

Why does that read like something that's no going to happen?

It reads like a pyramid scheme. I will pay you back in full once somebody else pays me the amount you need.
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"we can’t cancel the project ... everybody who has pledged will get a refund once we get the funds you will get a refund in full even if indigo takes a percentage. I will still refund you the full amount, and I’m sorry that it’s come to this."

Why does that read like something that's no going to happen?
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Prez wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:44:
Sepharo wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:28:
Krazy Kat wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:26:
RIP Lowtax.

He's was a pretty terrible human... but hey he did get in the ring with Uwe Boll

I don't see that as being too smart of a thing to do. Boll is clearly an unhinged loon (who I love and I hope he never stops making movies) but that unhinged loon is a beast who has boxing experience.

Oh it certainly isn't smart. But it was entertaining.
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Sepharo wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:28:
Krazy Kat wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:26:
RIP Lowtax.

He's was a pretty terrible human... but hey he did get in the ring with Uwe Boll
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Sepharo wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:28:
Krazy Kat wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:26:
RIP Lowtax.

He's was a pretty terrible human... but hey he did get in the ring with Uwe Boll

I don't see that as being too smart of a thing to do. Boll is clearly an unhinged loon (who I love and I hope he never stops making movies) but that unhinged loon is a beast who has boxing experience.
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Krazy Kat wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 13:26:
RIP Lowtax.

He's was a pretty terrible human... but hey he did get in the ring with Uwe Boll
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RIP Lowtax.
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Prez wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 12:38:
GinRummy wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 12:02:
He should announce that he's making a "No One Lives Forever" movie adaption. At least the resulting court case might actually settle just WHO the hell has the rights to that old out-of-print game that has been in license limbo for decades.

I was going to say that I unironically love Uwe Boll because you never know what insane shit he is going to do next, but the above idea is friggin brilliant.
I 3rd this idea. GinRummy playing 3D chess over here.
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He is like Ed Wood, but instead of making movies for the love and respect of them, to make them purely for grifting purposes. Gross person.
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GinRummy wrote on Sep 4, 2024, 12:02:
He should announce that he's making a "No One Lives Forever" movie adaption. At least the resulting court case might actually settle just WHO the hell has the rights to that old out-of-print game that has been in license limbo for decades.

I was going to say that I unironically love Uwe Boll because you never know what insane shit he is going to do next, but the above idea is friggin brilliant.
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He should announce that he's making a "No One Lives Forever" move adaption. At least the resulting court case might actually settle just WHO the hell has the rights to that old out-of-print game that has been in license limbo for decades.
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That's a fascinating fraud that Uwe Boll is perpetrating. Steal/use IP that has more recognition (albeit barely) to generate money for the other project you actually intend to make. That feels like it could be actionable. I hope that RWS looks into it.
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