The Flying Penguin wrote on Aug 30, 2024, 10:19:
I personally think Henry Cavil could pull it off considering his role in The Man From Uncle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIYGjIc5w4

I LOVE that movie despite its meh reviews. Extremely cool and stylish, and a good example of how well a spy story works when you set it in the past.

RogueSix wrote on Aug 30, 2024, 11:09:

El Pit wrote on Aug 30, 2024, 07:59:
The Craig era delivered with Casino Royale and Skyfall two great Bond movies and with Quantum of Solace one big stinker.

Skyfall was hot garbage imo. It's the last (maybe ever) Bond movie I have watched. What a trite piece of shit that was. Sure, it had some spectacle and some "cool" locations/setups (some extremely unrealistic setups tho like that Highlands cottage) but that was all.

It's like that was the whole point of the movie: Shoot action scenes in cool locations and absolutely nothing else. The non-existing story fit on less than the shred of a napkin. Villain + characters were all very meh at best. There was absolutely no sense of coherence or a real plot. It was simply a loose sequence of action scenes with more or less spectacular backdrops. The end.
There was nothing old school Bond-ish about it at all where you have a villain with a clever, intricate plan and a real coherent plot that holds it all together by adding a purpose to why shit is happening in those cool places. If you didn't know it was supposed to be a Bond movie, it could very well have been any random mediocre B (at best) action flick.

The best thing about it was Adele. Great title song. Great singing. Adele might be a crazy diva but she always delivers.

I'm actually with you on Skyfall, and I am always shocked it's so beloved. By giving us so much backstory for Bond, we really ruined a lot of the mystique. I had no reason to know anything about his childhood and what made him the man he is. I also didn't need him Kevin MacAllistering his childhood home. I was half expecting him to hang paint cans over the staircase and to put an iron in the laundry chute.

Casino Royale is fantastic, but arguably too long. I really enjoyed them taking a more realistic approach. And then, they kind of stopped. Things got less realistic and less exciting. I'm not really a fan of the scifi, gadgety, quippy Bond, and that's what they turned it into. I therefore liked it better without Q and his zany tropes, but also, perhaps the least realistic part of the new Q was that a guy in his early 30s could be recognized and skilled enough that he'd lead an entire government department.

El Pit wrote on Aug 30, 2024, 07:59:
The Craig era delivered with Casino Royale and Skyfall two great Bond movies and with Quantum of Solace one big stinker.

Skyfall was hot garbage imo. It's the last (maybe ever) Bond movie I have watched. What a trite piece of shit that was. Sure, it had some spectacle and some "cool" locations/setups (some extremely unrealistic setups tho like that Highlands cottage) but that was all.

It's like that was the whole point of the movie: Shoot action scenes in cool locations and absolutely nothing else. The non-existing story fit on less than the shred of a napkin. Villain + characters were all very meh at best. There was absolutely no sense of coherence or a real plot. It was simply a loose sequence of action scenes with more or less spectacular backdrops. The end.
There was nothing old school Bond-ish about it at all where you have a villain with a clever, intricate plan and a real coherent plot that holds it all together by adding a purpose to why shit is happening in those cool places. If you didn't know it was supposed to be a Bond movie, it could very well have been any random mediocre B (at best) action flick.

The best thing about it was Adele. Great title song. Great singing. Adele might be a crazy diva but she always delivers.

I personally think Henry Cavil could pull it off considering his role in The Man From Uncle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIYGjIc5w4

A lot of people in the UK are talking about wanting to see Martin Stuart as Bond. He's Scottish, has the looks in a well cut suit. Not very well known here, but he's famous for playing the lead role of 'The Duke' in Miss Scarlett & The Duke series:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3516668/

BTW, he was in Army of Thieves. His character was a total dick. The movie is well worth watching, just saw it. A far better movie than Army of The Dead. It's a prequel that introduces the back story of Dieter the safe cracker. An interesting aside: The actor that plays Dieter wrote and directed it, and he did an amazing job. It's a great heist movie that turns some of the heist movie tropes on their heads.

The Craig era delivered with Casino Royale and Skyfall two great Bond movies and with Quantum of Solace one big stinker. The other movies were alright or meh IMO.

Idris Elba is young enough to do a one-off Bond (a good makeup artist can follow him around on set). But it'd probably have to take place in "modern" times. On the other hand, I'd prefer him to be in a "Slow Horses"-style spy thriller/drama instead.

Jessica Allain was pretty badass in The Continental. And she was born in London. If they wanted to something truly different, someone like that could be a good option.

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Prez wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 16:22:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 14:48:
Now I kinda wanna see Samwise fucking Gollum as part of a loving, long established relationship were they mutually care for and support one another. Just to watch people's heads explode.

They may as well. They couldn't really make a less Tolkien-feeling "Lord of the Rings" show if they tried going by season 1. I'm discovering that being a pre-existing fan of anything can be hazardous to your health nowadays.

There's stuff to like in RoP S1, like the Mt. Doom storyline. Overall it was pretty Meh. I don't even think I watched the last two eps.

Marvin T. Martian wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 12:15:
They are too busy trying to figure out how not to offend anyone, especially the traditionalists. Likely be a mixed background that goes both ways while undergoing a gender change over 5 movies.

You kid, but Hollywood is just following the money.

The report underscores the correlation between diversity and box office success, revealing that films with casts featuring 31 to 40% BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color) enjoy the highest median global box office receipts

opie wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 20:46:

The Flying Penguin wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 10:56:
I'm with you, Blue. I'd love to see a 50s or 60s reboot of the Bond franchise.

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I don't want the typical girl boss nonsense that media is so insistent on either, but that is some racist, misogynist crap. And if you follow the typical template, you'll swear up and down that you're not racist and/or misogynist. While that may be true, that garbage that you wrote was exactly what a racist/or misogynist would say. Check yourself dude. You're an example why there can't be any nuance in a discussion anymore.

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Prez wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 10:57:
On the subject of Bond I was going to say Idris Elba until I checked the wiki and saw that he is 51.The guy is only 3 years younger than me but looks about 20 years younger than me.

Idris Elba would make a great Bond.
A betting site has him in the top 5.

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After seeing Austin Butler's performances in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Dune: Part Two, I think he would make an excellent Bond. He's got the acting chops, his combat skills were impressive in Dune: Part Two (especially that knife fight with Paul), and he could definitely bring a more menacing edge to the character, which seems like a natural evolution for James Bond. The character needs to become a villain's equal while preserving heroism.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5eHsFiUZiI

He would probably still do it if offered.

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The search for the new Bond is taking so long because they haven't called my agent yet. WTF, guys?!? I would even do it for the same modest fee as Craig. Ring'er up (my personal Ms. Monehpenneh haha) and we'll get something figured out, maggots. Make it pronto, too. I ain't got all day, ya know...

did cavill get thrown out of the running when i wasn't looking? he's probably perfect 90s bond, but maybe too hollywood for modern bond. i think richard madden (rob stark from GoT) would be a good dark horse candidate.

Blue wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 17:19:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 11:29:
So Bond in the 50s? No way he would go for a Blower Bentley. It only put out 130hp at the crank in race trim, handled like a pig in the 50s (what with the bicycle tires* it used), and would never ooze the style that encompasses Bond. Bond would definitely drive an Aston Martin DB Mark III if it were set in the late 50s or a Jaguar XK140 if it was set in the middle 50s.

*"Bicycle tires" do not refer to actual tires that go on a bike. It is a description for any tall, narrow tire.

Well, I'm sure you're right about the performance of the car. But I'm just talking authenticity. That Bentley is exactly the car Bond drove in the first few books. He wrecked it in Moonraker, which was published in 1955. I think Fleming was friends with Amherst Villiers, or at least was an acquaintance, because he seemed to go out of his way to call out the Amherst Villiers supercharger. I've seen those Bentleys called the Spitfires of automobiles, a sort of romanticism that was probably part of the choice too.

https://flemingsbond.com/4-½-litre-bentley-with-supercharger/ (sorry, i can't make this link display properly)+@*

We’re introduced to this car in Casino Royale. He also drives this car in Live and Let Die and Moonraker.


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Frans fixed it.

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Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 11:29:
So Bond in the 50s? No way he would go for a Blower Bentley. It only put out 130hp at the crank in race trim, handled like a pig in the 50s (what with the bicycle tires* it used), and would never ooze the style that encompasses Bond. Bond would definitely drive an Aston Martin DB Mark III if it were set in the late 50s or a Jaguar XK140 if it was set in the middle 50s.

*"Bicycle tires" do not refer to actual tires that go on a bike. It is a description for any tall, narrow tire.

Well, I'm sure you're right about the performance of the car. But I'm just talking authenticity. That Bentley is exactly the car Bond drove in the first few books. He wrecked it in Moonraker, which was published in 1955. I think Fleming was friends with Amherst Villiers, or at least was an acquaintance, because he seemed to go out of his way to call out the Amherst Villiers supercharger. I've seen those Bentleys called the Spitfires of automobiles, a sort of romanticism that was probably part of the choice too.

Rectal Prolapse wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 16:24:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 29, 2024, 14:48:
Now I kinda wanna see Samwise fucking Gollum as part of a loving, long established relationship were they mutually care for and support one another. Just to watch people's heads explode.

There's probably an AI generated video of that now...

Does that fall under rule 34?